Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:56:59 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>, thierry@freebsd.org, fbsdq <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: BEWARE upgrading Horde System Message-ID: <ef10de9a0604090756n275a107fj40ad0770ad42e749@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEJIFDAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> References: <20060409044505.N1096@ganymede.hub.org> <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEJIFDAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
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On 4/9/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote: > [snipped] > > I have never understood the demand for being able to do an inplace > upgrade of applications or of the operating system, and I've seen > enormous trouble with servers that people do this with, under Windows > as well as FreeBSD. > > Furthermore, by the time the software on the server is old, the hardware > is ready to be retired in favor of shiny new hardware that is a lot > faster. This is also very true of Windows servers too. > > This gets back to what I was saying with professional-vs-amateur > approach. A professional approach to a server is to plan for it > to live a certain life then you scrap it, or at the least nuke and > repave it for something less demanding. The car-rental companies > have been doing this with cars for years, and all the used car buyers > can never understand why a car rental companies sell perfectly > good cars with a lot of years of life left in them. > > The amateur approach is to build the server then wring every last > day of life out of it. Patch and patch it over and over and over > and upgrade it over and over and over, until it just won't work anymore. > Hell, people were complaining that FreeBSD 6.0 wouldn't run on a > 80386!!!! That's a total amateur approach. > I think your mixing up the professional approach with the I'm not paying the bills approach, that "shiny new hardware that is a lot faster" comes with a price tag attached to it and the price attached to that tag in relation to other factors determines the route to be taken. You do have, at the very least, a basic fiduciary responsibility to your employer, and in the context of business it's money.
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