From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:29:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E541106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5AA58FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 4597 invoked by uid 89); 28 Jan 2009 03:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 28 Jan 2009 03:44:37 -0000 Message-ID: <497FD121.9060206@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:29:37 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:29:52 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > Several months ago, I started using dar to backup a > number of FreeBSD and Linux systems to one FreeBSD box. It > worked fine once one got the syntax of the remote commands > working, but then it all died when I moved it to a new > FreeBSD6.3 system. I feel for you. > What we plan to do is backup a bunch of Unix systems to > one FreeBSD box and then use a commercial package to back that > box up to an enterprise-wide system we use. The archiver we need > must be able to make 1 full backup of each system like tar and > then incrementals until we are ready for another full backup. I am an AMANDA advocate. You seem to have a decent understanding of the difference between 'backup' and 'archive'. rsync does not fit your bill here, IMHO. Given that you need a 'standard' method of recovery, AMANDA conforms to dump(8) and restore(8) if you don't have easy/direct access to its internal amrecover(8) command set. The initial learning curve isn't bad for a sys admin who is familiar with performing proper network backups, and once initially configured, just does it's job. Since you can have all of your FreeBSD boxes backed up to a single hierarchical directory structure via AMANDA, your enterprise server should have no problem sweeping that single directory up, fulfilling that portion of the criteria. > Any suggestions as to what is best? Dar seemed to be > okay until the incrementals would hang each time with some error > messages about the format version being too high which is bogus > because we are using the same version for all the effected > systems. My suggestion is to use something that conforms to age-old and tried-and-true dump/restore routines. A backup (as I can tell you already know) is as good as the time it takes to restore from it. > The archive files should use tar or some other common > storage method so we could unpack an archive from a Linux system > in to a FreeBSD directory or vice versa. http://amanda.org Not only will it use tar, but you can define, on a partition level basis, which tar to use, whether to compress, etc etc. > Any backup packages using tar would be fine as long as > they can do incremental backups and use ssh as the transport. If you do use AMANDA, it is trivial to copy the backups over SSH whether it be after they are done or during backup. HTH. Steve