From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Oct 27 18:13:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04673 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:13:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04661 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:13:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id SAA17150; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id SAA19544; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:09:44 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id TAA08553; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:09:42 -0700 Message-ID: <36367CE6.BFF12693@softweyr.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:09:42 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Licia CC: Drew Baxter , Greg Lehey , Terry Lambert , kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD certified software (was: WordPerfect 8 for Linux) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First let me say I'm glad this is taking off -- we're generating some good ideas here. Licia wrote: > > Would the software have to pass quality tests? > > Would the logo/certification be available for > software specifically designed to run native, > without the emulators? I initially proposed two logos, but apparently nobody saw that message. The two logo programs are "Designed for FreeBSD" and "Works with FreeBSD." The first, "Designed for FreeBSD," is for software that offers FreeBSD- native ports. An excellent example of this is the version of Netscape 4.5 I'm using right now. This would also be offered for hardware that companies commit to supporting FreeBSD in almost any way, from developing and release drivers themselves all the way to just offering development hardware or even manuals to driver developers. Say for instance Mike Smith wants to write a FreeBSD driver for a PCMCIA T1/E1 card. He calls the card vendor, tells the person on the phone what he's doing, and this person says "That's great! We can't do a driver ourselves, but we'll send you our Windows driver source, all the internal documentation we have, datasheets on the chips, and a card to use for 6 months." Mike nominates this company for a "Designed for FreeBSD" logo, which is awarded when his driver is ready to roll. (This is a cool idea, no?) An off-the-cuff example of hardware vendors we'd offer this to right away would be Cyclades and Emerging Technologies. Whistle, too, of The second, "Works with FreeBSD," is for software that runs on FreeBSD under emulation, and/or hardware that is known to work well with FreeBSD. Say, for instance, I've made several workstations with a particular motherboard from XYZ Corp., and have found it easy to configure and use. I write up a description of the system's I've built, which XYZ Corp motherboard(s) I've used, and submit this to the "Works" page. It's filed, and the company is awared the "Works" logo. Same deal for software under emulation. Linux apps, SCO apps, BSDI apps, etc. A good example of this is the Acrobat Reader binary I have installed on my workstation; it's a Linux binary installed with a port kit. Whoever undertakes to do the testing would make notes on what is required to get it to work, i.e. "needs Linux emulation pre-installed; at step 4 in the included installation process, stop and 'brandelf /usr/local/bin/Xword'" or something of the sort. If the person doing the testing wants to create a 'port' that will install the product and offer it to the company, or just post it on FreeBSD servers; so much the better. > Would companies be allowed to use the certification in advertisements? I certainly hope they do! Ideally, we'd want them to put the logo on their web pages for the branded product(s), pointing to the FreeBSD web pages talking about the testing and support of the product. We'd also want them to stick stickers on the box, or on the hardware itself. Yeah, I'd like to see a little "Designed for FreeBSD" sticker on the back (or front!) of the Whistle InterJet and Pluto SPACE Platform. > Would related logos be available, to the effect of "We support the FreeBSD > Certification Effort"? I think the above two pretty much cover it. We're calling more attention to those who really work with us, and offering to do the testing, etc., work for the "Works with" products. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message