From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 18:35:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D59BBBE321; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (c.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A5D21A3D; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from zeppelin.tachypleus.net (75-101-50-44.static.sonic.net [75.101.50.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id u7IIZISQ008154 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:19 -0700 Subject: Re: svn commit: r304142 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/partedit To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= References: <201608150930.u7F9UL1V069576@repo.freebsd.org> <861t1n6749.fsf@desk.des.no> <581c856c-826b-529e-c9c6-a397fb679708@freebsd.org> <86wpjf4eun.fsf@desk.des.no> <8cb3fa1a-50cb-e238-d006-b98a628d446d@freebsd.org> <86k2ff4cxs.fsf@desk.des.no> <86fuq24d8s.fsf@desk.des.no> <544c64f4-693a-c5bc-1fb2-e696589583b3@freebsd.org> <867fbe3yd3.fsf@desk.des.no> Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org From: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <4d097835-66ce-72b6-c774-a87e38d88625@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:35:18 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <867fbe3yd3.fsf@desk.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVY+PfC1Zk3fvRZt5VHY2S2InuksnGWzfztin2dMLgz9BcMgUM/UW6wRlOr8+w2xCoN8RuxLFXUncP+NebpMRweg0QILodJ8QZk= X-Sonic-ID: C;mOmZg3Jl5hGzSaDx2xNB0g== M;ND3mg3Jl5hGzSaDx2xNB0g== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:35:25 -0000 On 08/18/16 08:12, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Nathan Whitehorn writes: >> We have a mechanism (GEOM stripe size) for drivers to supply a default >> alignment to userland. If we think we can get that right, great. If we >> don't think we can get it right, the default system policy in the >> absence of real information from drivers should be modified to report >> a number that we think is more likely to be safe than the current >> defaults (the logical sector size, usually 512 bytes) and potentially >> tunable by the user. Hacking the userland tools one-by-one to impose >> their own default policies to override the systemwide one is, while a >> perfectly valid stopgap right before a release, a ridiculous long-term >> solution. Do you disagree with any of that? > I'll tell you whether I agree or disagree when you stop putting words in > my mouth. > > DES This is ridiculous. I've asked a series of technical questions about generalizing a patch you made and that I think is a good idea. In response, those questions have been met with a non-stop torrent of insults and abuse instead of answers, with only one eventual nugget of information in response to one of them -- that you ran into problems with mfid -- to redeem it. I'm done with this discussion. Hopefully we can have a real conversation about this at this some point after the release. -Nathan