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Date:      Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:39:57 -0700
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org>
To:        Dag-Erling =?unknown-8bit?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Recommendations?
Message-ID:  <20050419173957.GC26152@dragon.NUXI.org>
In-Reply-To: <861x9bdlsz.fsf@xps.des.no>
References:  <200504131714.20356.jkim@niksun.com> <86fyxt1ovu.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050415005850.GB80903@dragon.NUXI.org> <2fd864e050414180911e4e5be@mail.gmail.com> <20050415211600.GA1473@dragon.NUXI.org> <1113603823.91832.7.camel@cream.xbsd.org> <2fd864e050415174048dc579d@mail.gmail.com> <346a802205041519071e4dc609@mail.gmail.com> <4260D654.3060301@mail.uni-mainz.de> <861x9bdlsz.fsf@xps.des.no>

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On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 01:05:00PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote:
> "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de> writes:
> > My question si: how to force nVidia delivering the needed
> > informations? It should be an aspect of customer demand. nVidia
> > earns money with each sold nForce based motherboard and each GForce
> > based graphics card and the better the support, the more they can
> > sell.
> 
> Why would they care about FreeBSD users?  Unlike Linux, FreeBSD has
> approximately zero brainshare in the computer press, and unlike
> FreeBSD, Linux runs perfectly well on nForce chipsets.  In fact, the
> Asus SK8N which David loathes is "Linux-certified".

You have NO idea how many hoops Linux jumps thru to run on the Asus SK8N.
Let me repeat to you again -- _I_ was the first person to try to run
64-bit Linux on this motherboard.  It didn't work.  The Linux kernel grew
many, many patches to deal with this motherboard and so you should be
saying it is only "Linux-certified" for newer versions of Linux.

However, I can run older FreeBSD versions on both AMD and VIA baesd
motherboards (ie, FreeBSD versions released before the chipsets were
produced).  What does that tell you??

> If I didn't already know that FreeBSD is perfect and flawless and that
> David is the Christ reborn, I'd be tempted to conclude that there is
> something wrong with FreeBSD (or David), not with the nForce chipset.

If I didn't already know DES was a huge ass....
 
-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)



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