From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jul 23 18:19:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from waveconcepts.com (waveconcepts.com [207.126.116.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E0D14F1E for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:19:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from siberian@siberian.org) Received: from [216.112.76.84] (gamera.siberian.org [216.112.76.84] (may be forged)) by waveconcepts.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA17743; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: siberian@207.126.116.40 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37991278.5324A70B@uswest.net> References: <37991278.5324A70B@uswest.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:18:34 -0700 To: Summoner From: John Armstrong Subject: Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?! Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well here was the problem I had. I upgraded from freebsd 2.2.8 to 3.0. That means I went from a.out to an elf based kernel which means that it upgraded all my stock freebsd binaries. Well, it did _not_ upgrade my tcsh binary since its a port. When I tried to login in as root at console it could not launch the shell since it was a.out and not elf. This means I was locked out of the machine! I forgot how I solved the issue but it was a pain in the neck. Since then, I have learned that it is much easier to leave root at 'sh' and, when I login in as root, typing 'exec tcsh'. Sure, its an extra command line but I feel good about it. I can't live without my tcsh :) Moral of the story, if something goes wrong with your root login shell your in a little trouble and much less is likely to happen to sh then to tcsh or bash or any other port shell. John- At 6:10 PM -0700 7/23/99, Summoner wrote: >John Armstrong wrote: > > Just make sure > > root always has a base sh shell for emergencies and your set. > >Excuse my newbieness, but why should I have sh for root? So that if >when screw over my installation again I still have a shell for single >user mode and (hopefully) fix things? Or does base shell mean >something else? > >My US$.019: I grew up on Bourne-style shells, I'm used to interactive >command-line editting. So it was key for my learning FreeBSD to use >bash. I don't need colour, never did. ----------------------------------------------------------- "The term "daemons" is a Judeo-Christian pejorative. Such processes will now be known as "spiritual guides". " -Political Correct UNIX Page ( http://www.baltimoremd.com/technology/newunix.html ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message