From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 20 12:21:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB2B106568D for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (skuns.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E658FC08 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBKCAMwe061311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:10:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBKCALIt006360; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:10:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBKCAL38006359; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:10:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:10:19 +0200 From: Kostik Belousov To: Hajimu UMEMOTO Message-ID: <20091220121019.GJ2170@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <200912200134.nBK1YCAA048942@svn.freebsd.org> <4B2DBB51.9060002@FreeBSD.org> <4B2DD2A1.8060907@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Rmm1Stw9KgbdL9/H" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, freebsd-rc@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r200743 - in head/usr.sbin: . service X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:21:36 -0000 --Rmm1Stw9KgbdL9/H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 06:31:56PM +0900, Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote: > Hi, >=20 > >>>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:30:41 -0800 > >>>>> Doug Barton said: >=20 > > About the value this change, I think it should be same as the values > > at boot time. I cannot imagine that someone want to restart the > > system daemons under the user environment.=20 >=20 > dougb> I can actually, especially for ports. >=20 > Yup, I often do restart the services installed from ports, too. > I meant that I don't want that the values of user environment are > inherited to the services which is started from the user environment. >=20 > > Even if someone want to do > > so, he still can kick /etc/rc.d/foo, directly. >=20 > dougb> The point of adding a service(8) is to avoid needing to do that. :) >=20 > Yes, I hope so.:) > The merit of using service(8) should be that there are more additional > thing than just kicking /etc/rc.d/foo; don't inherit the values of > user environment, IMO. I fully support this. I always have to do the env -u games with several variables, LANG in particular. --Rmm1Stw9KgbdL9/H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksuFCsACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4j08ACgqrCLjqWS/inGPsljwVK2F+us 0A0An2jZQ76655Dks2qbYr1XHECIH2uq =vdXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Rmm1Stw9KgbdL9/H--