From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 13 17:33:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4C01537C for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:s5KLwCDgwfwyf4N5gxIV0V9mKSr8pJII@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id JAA12756; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:32:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id JAA06985; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:36:04 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199907140036.JAA06985@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Doug Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , Robert Nordier , MIHIRA Yoshiro , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: comconsole In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:30:42 MST." References: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:36:03 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Options (as far as loader goes): >> >> load kernel -h >> or >> set console=comconsole >> >> Both will set up boot through the serial console, without >> interfering with normal working of autoboot. > > Ok, but my (very imperfect) understanding of the -h option to boot >is that it will not send any boot messages to the "real" console (plugged >in keyboard and monitor)? We sometimes need to plug one in, so -P (probe >keyboard and then send the boot messages where they belong) is what I need >to do. I'm sure I've got something else wrong here though.... You are right. -h is the toggle to switch between the internal (keyboard and video) console and the serial console. You are also right that -P is the option you need in your situation. >> A -P in /boot.config is >> prefered, though, for the reasons Nordier gave. > > Ok, then someone ought to fix the man page that says that >/boot.config is deprecated. I think it's loader.conf, or loader. The man page for loader(8) states that /boot/boot.conf is deprecated. But it doesn't say /boot.config is obsoleted anywhere. The man page for boot(8) describes the usage of /boot/config. Yes, these names are confusing and that is, AFAIK, exactly the reason why /boot/boot.conf is deprecated :-) >> > Wow.... where were you last week when I asked for a list like >> > this. :-/ Could you add one more detail to this list, namely what config >> > files get executed when in this schedule? It would be really helpful to >> > me, and I'm sure others. I've read the man pages till I'm going loopy on >> > them and it's sinking in very slowly, but not fully there yet. >> >> Patches to the man pages would be welcomed. > > If I had even a glimmer of understanding, I would do just that, >but honestly the way all of these different elements interact is still a >mystery. I have managed to slap enough things around to get it to do >what I want to do, but I still don't feel like I understand what's >happening or why. I do appreciate you taking the time to help though. I am writing up a handbook section for the serial console configuration. The draft is at: http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/serialconsole.html I am writing it for the audience exactly like you. Please have a look and send me any comments and suggestions. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message