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Date:      Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:04:06 -0600 (MDT)
From:      FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve <geniusj@free-bsd.org>
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FW: Local DoS in FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909011603300.1964-100000@free-bsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990901162052.023c18d0@staff.sentex.ca>

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Explain what you mean? That is what login classes are for, you dont have
to put "nobody" in a limited class if this is what you mean.. And you can
set internal limits in apache if that's what you mean.. I feel you mean
either one but I don't know :)


On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote:

> At 02:10 PM 9/1/99 -0600, FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve wrote:
> >Exactly what I mean! Limit file descriptors, and it also uses a lot of CPU
> >time so you can limit that too.. It will never crash the system with the
> >proper limits set :). They can run it all they want.
> 
> Well, that sort of helps for kids just doing ./a.out, but would you put
> accounting limits on your web server ?  That seems like a nasty can of
> configuration worms one would be opening no ?
> 
> 	---Mike
> 
> 
> >
> >On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> >
> >> At 11:49 AM 9/1/99 -0600, FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve wrote:
> >> >If you have public access users, you should have login accounting in the
> >> >first place.. and yes, it does stop it :).. I verified this on a 3.2 box
> >> >with my login accounting setup..
> >> 
> >> How does accounting stop it ?  Or do you mean it just discourages users
> >> from doing it ? How much overhead does accounting add to the system ?
> >> Also, limiting the amount of file descriptors can prevent it, as the 'bug'
> >> is essentially a resource starving issue (e.g. fork bomb)
> >> 
> >> 	---Mike
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Mike Tancsa,                          	          tel 01.519.651.3400
> >> Network Administrator,     			  mike@sentex.net
> >> Sentex Communications                 		  www.sentex.net
> >> Cambridge, Ontario Canada
> >> 
> >> 
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> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike Tancsa,                          	          tel 01.519.651.3400
> Network Administrator,     			  mike@sentex.net
> Sentex Communications                 		  www.sentex.net
> Cambridge, Ontario Canada
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