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Date:      Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:09:32 +0100
From:      arden <arden@nildram.co.uk>
To:        Tom McLaughlin <tmclaugh@sdf.lonestar.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD weakness.
Message-ID:  <1087729772.2423.11.camel@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <1087673619.834.53.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org>
References:  <40D484A2.2080602@yahoo.com> <1087673619.834.53.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org>

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On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 20:33, Tom McLaughlin wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 14:23, Lloyd Hayes wrote:
> > I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I 
> > got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting 
> > errors again....
> > 
> > So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews 
> > posted there about the books, people were complaining about weak 
> > documentation, too much information about things that they were not 
> > interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be the most 
> > common complaint. In my very short recent history with FreeBSD, I've 
> > formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's greatest weakness. 
> > FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write a good book for 
> > beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is needed with examples 
> > that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in plain English. There 
> > seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around.
> 
> Of the free OSs I think the different BSDs tend to be the better
> documented.  Along with the man pages (don't short them, some can be
> obtuse at times but overall they give me what I need most of the time),
> this has served as my primary source of documentation for FreeBSD:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html
> 
> Book wise, there are more on Linux.  This is starting to change though
> which is great.  I think what you are looking for isn't necessarilly a
> FreeBSD specific book, though having at least one is great, but a
> general unix primer to help you get more familiar with unix concepts.  I
> remember when I started toying around with linux and stared at the
> command line not knowing what to do.  I had "Running Linux" back then
> which had a great intro to such things like file permissions,
> users/groups, and navigating around the system.
> 
> Since I really can't from looking at my bookshelf, can anyone recommend
> a book with a few good chapters on general unix concepts to get a
> completely green user familiar and comfortable with "the way things are
> done"?  Comming from $OTHER_OS to unix can be daunting but once you get
> the basics down, you start to complain that $OTHER_OS is too hard to do
> what you want.  :)
> 
> Tom
> 
> > I have decided that it is a very good operating system which I need to 
> > learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links that everyone sent 
> > me. Thanks for all of the info.

> ive also just started down the bsd route started on linux 2/3 years 
back then m$ was my desktop OS now thats been replaced by mandrake and
bsd is my "play" OS i have to say its done me no end of good at work now
been sent on aix courses in order to become a member of our risc team :)

on a side not ive still have a small windows partition for running
dvd2one dose any one know an equivalent in the *nix world 

arden 
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