From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 3 15:36:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5876B970; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0334D99D; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t33Faojl023954 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:36:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t33Fan2w023951; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:36:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:36:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Benedict Reuschling Subject: Re: Handbook x-config-quick-start is missing information to configure HAL and DBUS In-Reply-To: <551EAE4C.1000301@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <551EAE4C.1000301@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 03 Apr 2015 09:36:50 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, kaiorafael@gmail.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 15:36:52 -0000 On Fri, 3 Apr 2015, Benedict Reuschling wrote: > Am 03.04.15 um 17:07 schrieb Warren Block: >> >> Yes. xorg-server does not use HAL by default any more. I'm >> tempted to just remove the HAL/DBUS part of the quick start. >> Really, the whole Xorg installation section needs a rewrite. I >> have an outline for that, but not the motivation. > > I'd like to see that happen as well, mainly because of my dislike of > the extra HAL dependency. Warren, maybe we can work on this on > Phabricator? If you can provide your outline we can get it moving > towards a handbook patch sooner. Maybe involving the ports people as > well is also helpful because they should know what needs to be in > there (dependency-wise) and what not. The quick start (which is widely ignored) does have instructions which work with the new no-HAL default. It's been a couple of months since I last worked on the outline, but maybe there is a way we can get people to help with it.