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Date:      Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:24:08 -0600 (CST)
From:      lgfausak@august.net (Greg Fausak)
To:        alex@pilosoft.com, gcorcoran@lucent.com
Cc:        freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: netgraph/atm
Message-ID:  <m13w3Ts-002H2XC@gomer.august.net>

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>On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Gary T. Corcoran wrote:
>
>> > yep.. If that's what rfc1483 (the rfc) treats as input and output.
>> 
>> Actually RFC1483 has four "flavors", two of which support "bridging"
>> of complete 802.3 ethernet frames including the MAC addresses - either
>> encapsulated with an LLC/SNAP header or "raw" with just a two byte
>> (0x00, 0x00) pad for alignment purposes.  Another flavor removes the
>> MAC addresses, prepends a 6-byte LLC/OUI header, and preserves the
>> EtherType and the rest of the frame.  The other flavor just routes
>> a PDU (raw packet with no MAC addressses or EtherType) across a VC
>> (ATM virtual channel) with no encapsulation at all.
>Yeah. I'm just implementing it to scratch my itch, and I'll see about
>support of everything else later. I'm definitely going to try to support
>llc/snap and raw mode. Without the ethertype, its 'routed PDU', and is
>already handled just fine by existing ATM stacks.
>
>> Alex - if you intend to make your code public, and if you feel
>> ambititious, it would be nice if you could support all four flavors
>> of RFC1483.  Then we could replace our Win2000 server with a FreeBSD
>> server for testing our DSL implementations of RFC1483...   ;-)
>Yes, we are also doing it for DSL. Its quite unfortunate that telcos chose
>'bridged mac/llc' as preferred method of delivery of DSL, since it has the
>biggest overhead...But I guess for them transparency was the biggest
>issue. Oh well.

FWIW:

One of the guys I work with did the DSL implementation for GTE.
I asked him about the choice of bridging.  He indicated that
there are some legal reasons that bridged connections are delivered
rather than routed connections.

---greg
Greg Fausak
August.Net Services, LLC
greg@august.net
972-323-6598


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