From owner-freebsd-user-groups@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 20 11:31:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80CD16A479; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kruptos@mlinux.org) Received: from ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.5.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F26543D46; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:31:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kruptos@mlinux.org) Received: from fnord.quux.edu (207.40.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com [65.33.40.207]) by ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5KBVdoR026098; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:31:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Brunelle To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:31:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200606190137.k5J1bX0V015840@ns1.cityscope.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606200731.38119.kruptos@mlinux.org> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: David Hoffman , freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org, thisdayislong , Dennis Olvany , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post X-BeenThere: freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User Group Coordination List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:31:43 -0000 On Sunday 18 June 2006 21:54, David Hoffman wrote: > However, most of what you wrote is incorrect. Are you seriously trying to > tell us that the author's name is 'Brett Soupman'? That seems like a > pseudonym at best. It's hardly clear he's given you permission to republish > the work, let alone to claim it as your own. Do you represent the copyright holder of this article in any manner? I'm not convinced that you do if you're not even aware of what his name is. And even if Brett Soupman is a pseudonym (which I have seen no indication to support that) the author still has copyright -- something you wish to argue about -- but can grant the use of his work under the pseudonym. If he couldn't then it would be pointless to use one in the first place. > Moreover, due to the > copyright notice attributing the page to HOUFUG, exactly who owns the > article is ambiguous at best. Sure, Brett owns it, but does HOUFUG own it > as well? This isn't at all clear. It is standard practice on the web for site and design copyright to go at the bottom of each page. The fact that this copyright is stated in the same location the site and not the article (as well as the fact that it's on every page) would lead any reasonable person to believe it talks about the website and not the article. Especially considering that valid copyright is now listed on the site in large clear font. You've given strong reason to suspect that you're just trying to stir up trouble and not actually concerned about this copyright issue. If you had been, this would have been approached in a much different manner. I'm not sure if you are upset about the reference on a personal webpage to the English only thing (something surely not supported by the project itself) or have just found a reason to act self-righteous for other purposes. If you are, in fact, representing the copyright holder of this article or any other item on the website, could you please clarify that and stop trying to incite something? -Kevin