Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 16:32:24 -0600 From: Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Minimal skills Message-ID: <CY4PR19MB01049164188F97B0DB437C73F9860@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <CY4PR19MB01041612888413C46D9F6D81F9860@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> References: <CY4PR19MB01041612888413C46D9F6D81F9860@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200605141422.0c2fab21.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB01041DACEFFEF08ADB096BC3F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CY4PR19MB0104DC7541A2154B5C435EA7F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604074134.89eb6518.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104A2C03F4D66A1DA251A23F9880@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604005859.ca438474.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104C290121BF756D57B2DDBF9880@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604020051.0c02472d.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104DD86F8FE6446AD1BF327F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CY4PR19MB0104145694B8484F3AC9FB7EF9860@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <f05a51b4-88ad-c6f0-4f0f-988a6ad04e42@panix.com> <24282.13581.526482.840608@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20200605141422.0c2fab21.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB01041612888413C46D9F6D81F9860@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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Thanks, I'll get to it and be back in a while and every so often to ask questions about FreeBSD. > > On Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 10:12:12 -0600, Brandon helsley wrote: > Ruby, C, and python are my best bet for learning programming? Again, the correct answer is: "It depends." :-) C teaches you fundamentals, and it is used in many places of FreeBSD. Python and Ruby, as interpreted languages, are very imporant in the application area, not so much in system programming. While they have certain things in common, there are big differences in the languages' elements. > Do C and Ruby have a GUI like python does? Both have libraries and frameworks to generate GUIs, both native and web-based. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 5 22:44:15 2020 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DF533A03A for <freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org>; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49dyPV0Lnqz44NL for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 22:44:15 -0000 On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 16:32:24 -0600, Brandon helsley wrote: > Thanks, I'll get to it and be back in a while and every so often > to ask questions about FreeBSD. Allow me to add a little illustration (again simplified, but probably still worth a pointer): Recently a bug was reported that the manpage of the awk program mentions the -V option, but the awk program doesn't support it; instead it supports --version, which is not in the manpage. There are now basically two solutions to resolve the bug: a) change the manpage to reflect the existing behaviour of awk (requires ability to edit manpage, roff/mdoc format) b) change the awk source to accept the -V option as per manpage (requires ability to edit C program) If you are interested in what bugs currently exist on FreeBSD and need to be solved, you can use the freebsd-bugs@ mailing list as well as the bug tracker for a good overview. Example: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=247004 -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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