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Date:      Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:01:48 -0500
From:      Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
To:        Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Message-ID:  <20090116160148.GA37906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1232068850.22938.11.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au>
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:20:50AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> > 
> > I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?
> > 
> > What I am asking, is, somehting like:
> > 
> > Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
> > sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:
> > 
> > F1 Windows
> > F2 FreeBSD
> > F5 Disk1
> > 
> > -Grant
> 
> Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates
> and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free
> software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install
> Window$ and give up.

I don't think you read what he wrote carefully.
You are right in your statement about MS having to be first and
not accomodating any other system.   But, for those very reasons,
his statement is correct.   He has Win already on the disk.  He
wants to use the _FreeBSD_ system to write the _FreeBSD_ MBR
which will happily boot both MS-Win and FreeBSD.  

I boot MS quite regularly with the FreeBSD MBR.  It is the standard
recommended way of doing a dual boot.   The machine on which I am 
presently typing is dual boot with MS-XP and FreeBSD and it uses only 
the FreeBSD MBR with no problem.

////jerry



> 
> I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun)
> that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use
> the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should
> be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than
> the rigmarole M$ go to.
> 
> Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has
> changed.
> 
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