From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:08:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA91216A475 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from frontmail.ipactive.de (frontmail.maindns.de [85.214.95.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6924313C469 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from mail.vtec.ipme.de (Q7d87.q.ppp-pool.de [89.53.125.135]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by frontmail.ipactive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF5812881E for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:46:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cesar.sz.vwsoft.com (cesar.sz.vwsoft.com [192.168.16.3]) by mail.vtec.ipme.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764983F4E8 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:45:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:45:15 +0200 From: Volker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VWSoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com X-ipactive-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ipactive-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ipactive-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com Cc: Subject: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:08:57 -0000 Hi! Reading some of the latest blog entries today, I've seen there has been some (newbie) user frustration with the latest X.org upgrade (mostly by not reading docs or not understanding the ports system at all). flz@ and des@ had a lot of trouble with some guys. Currently, if a new user is trying out FreeBSD, he will most likely set up a 6.2-RELEASE system and end up in the X.org upgrade war. As a new user is most likely not prepared to manage the system at all, he will most likely probe FreeBSD being unmaintainable (as he will most likely not know how to deal with ports at all). While reading about all that latest trouble, I think it might not be a bad idea to have a (quick) release cycle and release something like 6.2.1-RELEASE (6.3 is still TBA). I'm considering the latest X.org upgrade being a major upgrade which would justify a release cycle (@ flz: you did a great job). That would keep the trouble from new users and also from some mailing lists. I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. What does the core and releng team think? It might do good. Just my 2ct. Volker