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Date:      Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:57:35 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>
To:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@hub.org, on@cs.ait.ac.th
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
Message-ID:  <200609140957.k8E9vZ9m037557@lurza.secnetix.de>
In-Reply-To: <200609140817.k8E8H1vK091852@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>

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Olivier Nicole <on@cs.ait.ac.th> wrote:
 > [...]
 > > Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push 
 > > the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting 
 > > from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ...
 > 
 > 6 days later: Thailand jumped from 12 machines to 110... ahead of
 > France and Australia.
 > 
 > Only thing that the figures say is that they are far from being
 > accurate.

Statistics are _never_ accurate.  In this particular case
they're especially inaccurate, because the bsdstats project
has started just recently, and only few people are using it
(5000 is probably nothing compared to the total amount of
BSD machines in the world).  Therefore the current numbers
are hardly representative, they're skewed by regional
fluctuations in the spreading of the bsdstats script.

That affects not only the country distribution, but also
the BSD type distribution.  For example, currently debian/
kFreeBSD is at 6 while MirBSD is at 3, but I do not believe
that the former is only twice as often in use as the
latter.

 > And that people should be reminded to register from time to time.

Once the periodic script is enabled, it will take care of
that (at least on FreeBSD).  However, there's a problem
with machines that aren't running 24 hours per day (like
home or office PCs).  Many machines are off at the time
when the monthly script would normally run.  AFAIK Marc
is aware of that problem and working on a solution.

In fact it's a more general problem, because other
periodic scripts won't run either in such cases, e.g.
the update of the locate database and other things.

Personally I have solved the problem by creating a small
script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/.  At each boot it checks
when the periodic scripts have been run for the last time,
and runs them if necessary, recording the time.  But that's
only a hack that I made myself.  FreeBSD needs a more
general solution to the problem.

Best regards
   Oliver

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