Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:35:00 +0100 From: Dominic Marks <dominic_marks@btinternet.com> To: Mikhail Teterin <mi@aldan.algebra.com> Cc: jkh@winston.freebsd.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org, winter@jurai.net, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, pst@pst.org, des@ofug.org, imp@village.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall install.c installUpgrade Message-ID: <20020403193459.A4871@host213-123-131-244.in-addr.bto> In-Reply-To: <200204031827.g33IR39r046085@aldan.algebra.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:27:03PM -0500 References: <28699.1017857530@winston.freebsd.org> <200204031827.g33IR39r046085@aldan.algebra.com>
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On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:27:03PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > On 3 Apr, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > >> But .zip is noticeably bigger than .tar.gz. Not to mention, .tar.bz2. > >> And the package size is what's of the highest priority, IMHO, since > >> disks and especially bandwidth don't grow nearly as fast as the CPU > >> speeds. > > > > You must live outside the US, that's all I can say. That assertion is > > completely false here. > > Newton, MA. Thank you. > > > I would also argue that package size is of the highest priority - > > that's patently untrue. What's the highest priority in packaging > > formats is providing enough power and mechanism to make the package > > installation experience a lot more robust and user-friendly. > > Oh, "experience" -- what a great marketing word! It isn't pleasant, > if each package is 20% bigger than it can be (.gz vs. bz2) and someone > is advocating another 20% (?) bump (.zip vs. tar.gz). And why? Because > we can't figure out the best place to extract it in? > > > Disks are getting so cheap and so large (in even the most humble user > > configurations) that I'd probably put package size _last_. > > > I also live in the middle of the woods with redwood trees and all > > sorts of wildlife around and even I have 1.5MBit worth of downstream > > bandwidth via my ADSL line. Just imagine how well-connected all those > > city people must be! :-) > > Are you suggesting we ignore the dial-up modem users? No amount of > patented smileys can smooth that up, you know :-) Packages are always going to be problem for modem users because of what they are. If you have a slow modem its likely that to compile the program (ala ports) will take less time than the package. So if you have a poor connection your best option is to use ports. If you have broadband you are lucky that you can pick and choose more freely. > disks and especially bandwidth don't grow nearly as fast as the > CPU speeds. As you correctly pointed out. > -mi > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message -- Dominic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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