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Date:      Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:07:21 +0100
From:      Stijn Hoop <stijn@win.tue.nl>
To:        Alan Eldridge <alane@geeksrus.net>
Cc:        "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net>, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>, FreeBSD ports list <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ports/33777: samba WITH_CUPS pulls in cups meta-port, not cups-base
Message-ID:  <20020111160721.D25678@pcwin002.win.tue.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20020111145511.GA36269@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>; from alane@geeksrus.net on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 09:55:11AM -0500
References:  <20020111021009.A77067@shumai.marcuscom.com> <200201111429.g0BETOe35486@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <001c01c19aae$01086940$d800a8c0@inethouston.net> <20020111154557.A25678@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <002a01c19aaf$125502c0$d800a8c0@inethouston.net> <20020111155118.C25678@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20020111145511.GA36269@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>

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On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 09:55:11AM -0500, Alan Eldridge wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 03:51:18PM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> >On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 08:48:45AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
>=20
> >I hadn't looked at the port yet, glad to hear that! However, Alan sugges=
ted
> >that your last commit be backed out... I was arguing that IMHO that's no=
t a
> >good idea.
>=20
> Well, it won't work without cups-lpr if you have cups printing.=20

OK, but isn't that a little obvious? (at least, to me it is...) You should =
use
the WITH_CUPS=3Dyes option to make if you have CUPS and build samba from po=
rts.

> But, we *could* leave my change in and add a message saying to install
> cups-lpr if cups is needed.=20

Yes, or maybe create a samba-cups slave port that simply sets this option.
This would make binary packages with CUPS support available, won't it?

> This change was mainly to stop the "CUPS broke my printing" threads
> that show up from time to time (usually directed at KDE, but we have
> fixed that, since KDE really doesn't need cups-lpr).

Yes, and like I stated, I consider it a major violation of POLA if some port
installs binaries with names that are like system names, especially if it's
automatically pulled in (ie, I didn't ask for CUPS, I asked for Samba).
All GNU ports get renamed to avoid this problem (GNU make, GNU ls, etc.).

Whatever way it is solved, *I* can use the WITH_CUPS option to configure Sa=
mba
to my wishes. However, I think that the packaged version of Samba is import=
ant
to FreeBSD as well. I haven't heard from that many CUPS users lately. Are
there numbers available about CUPS usage? If so, the decision can be made
depending on most used print system...

--Stijn

--=20
The right half of the brain controls the left half of the body.  This means
that only left handed people are in their right mind.

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