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Date:      Mon, 4 May 1998 10:46:03 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Jim Bryant <jbryant@unix.tfs.net>
To:        thz@tuebingen.netsurf.de (Thomas Zenker)
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Infrared ? (a simple experiment for laptop owners...)
Message-ID:  <199805041546.KAA06041@unix.tfs.net>
In-Reply-To: <19980503222301.49687@tuebingen.netsurf.de> from Thomas Zenker at "May 3, 98 10:23:01 pm"

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> On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 04:45:27AM +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > >Example: one side (the 'client' ppp) acts as a master, the other one as
> > > >a slave. The protocol is governed by the master, and the slave can only
> > > >send a packet right after a pkt coming from the master.
> > > 
> > > Stupid as it may sound, this kind of thing could help improve ethernet
> > > response in certain client-server scenarioes.  On the other hand, IP
> > > isn't very well suited to half-duplex, and to get a decent performance
> > > you probably need to flip though Tanenbaums book and see if you can
> > > find some old stuff from Hawai to use...
> > 
> > where do you think i got these ideas :)
> > 
> 
> Some years ago I have implemented for a radio network a protocol
> based on the ECMA HDLC/TWA protocol (Two Way Asynchronous). For
> radio networks you have the same problem, you can't hear while
> crying so loud. The HDLC/TWA regulates the link access by having
> a primary and secondaries, only primary is allowed to initiate a
> transmition.  For running a whole network with store & forward
> relays I implemented a token passing protocol on top of this. For
> packet protocols like UDP/IP it should be no problem to pass it
> thru, never tried really to make it tunnel TCP/IP.

Did anyone see my last posting on this topic?

These ports are ideal for AX.25!  HDLC/LAPB type protocols are well
documented.  IP can be tunneled easily, as a matter of fact there are
half-duplex TCP/IP networks all over the world using these protocols.

If anyone is interested, if I remember correctly, I have a copy of the
AX.25 protocol available at my web page [see .sig]...  I can also
supply the LAPB docs.

I think it's about time I dusted off my code and picked it up
again...  /sys/netccitt is a good starting point.

jim
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