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Date:      Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:54:42 -0500
From:      "Seth Chandler" <>
To:        "'Adriaan de Groot'" <>, <>
Subject:   RE: bootstrapping
Message-ID:  <000001c39ccc$8bdfb060$9abafd80@cwm>
In-Reply-To: <>

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I installed off of the FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE CD, and copyed a /usr/src and
/usr/ports tree to my AMD64 box.  I did a make buildworld and a make
buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC(actually I disabled the -CURRENT debugging
in my own config file, but otherwise its exactly the same), then
installed both and rebooted.  

I downloaded his cvsup snapshot, and added it.  It seems to run fine for
me actually, I just used my regular supfile (with ports-all and
src-all), except without compress.  

I built a number of ports, and have had varying degrees of success.

Ports that worked:

lang/php4 (WITH_APACHE2="yes")
some mail server stuff (postfix, courier-imap, spamassassin, procmail)
perl 5.8.0
portupgrade (and ruby I guess :-P)
postgresql (though I havn't done any testing, I just know it builds)
and of course vim :-)

obviously most of these things are going to 'just work' because it's a
standard *nix environment.

Ports that needed some tweaking or didn't work completely:
Samba-devel (3.0.0, I posted about this on the list earlier, so see the
follow-ups to that)
Mysql appeared to cause some weird kernel traps (trap 9, though I don't
have the message available right now), but it ran (mostly)

Ports that don't work

Obviously ezm3/cvsup don't build from scratch
Gnome2 and kde 3 aren't happy, I know one of them didn't like a library
that wasn't built with -fPIC, I think that it was an XFree library
though, I don't really remember.
I'm sure there are a number of others that won't work without emulation
(i.e. packages we don't' have the source code for), and anything that
uses x86 assembly code will probably not work either :-)


-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Adriaan de Groot
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: bootstrapping

So, while I'm waiting for my K8V to be RMA'ed, I'm thinking about how to
about integrating this amd64 box into my network and getting it running.
gather there's no really working cvsup, and David's snapshot build from
back is (a) from wayback (b) unstable under load.

I've got several running systems, both -STABLE and -CURRENT, with
/usr/src's. The /usr/src's are NFS exported, and I've got a spare
NIC (yes, an RTL 8029). Supposing I boot a 4-STABLE drive with rl(4) in
in an amd64 box - what do I need to do to get it up to speed (heck,
make it a 5-CURRENT drive, since we've got the 4-to-5 upgrade otherwise

- do I need to cvsup anything special? extra branches? are all the
sources for 
all the architectures normally in a /usr/src/sys?

- does X "just build" then?

Getting all this (and the machine) together ought to take me a while,
and I 
promise to be quite while that happens :)


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