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Date:      Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:54:42 -0500
From:      "Seth Chandler" <sbc28@cornell.edu>
To:        "'Adriaan de Groot'" <adridg@cs.kun.nl>, <amd64@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: bootstrapping
Message-ID:  <000001c39ccc$8bdfb060$9abafd80@cwm>
In-Reply-To: <200310272055.54288.adridg@cs.kun.nl>

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I installed off of the FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE CD, and copyed a /usr/src and
/usr/ports tree to my AMD64 box.  I did a make buildworld and a make
buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC(actually I disabled the -CURRENT debugging
in my own config file, but otherwise its exactly the same), then
installed both and rebooted.  

I downloaded his cvsup snapshot, and added it.  It seems to run fine for
me actually, I just used my regular supfile (with ports-all and
src-all), except without compress.  

I built a number of ports, and have had varying degrees of success.

Ports that worked:

x11/XFree86-4
www/apache2
lang/php4 (WITH_APACHE2="yes")
some mail server stuff (postfix, courier-imap, spamassassin, procmail)
perl 5.8.0
portupgrade (and ruby I guess :-P)
postgresql (though I havn't done any testing, I just know it builds)
sudo/screen/wget/bash2/zsh
and of course vim :-)

obviously most of these things are going to 'just work' because it's a
standard *nix environment.

Ports that needed some tweaking or didn't work completely:
Samba-devel (3.0.0, I posted about this on the list earlier, so see the
follow-ups to that)
Mysql appeared to cause some weird kernel traps (trap 9, though I don't
have the message available right now), but it ran (mostly)

Ports that don't work

Obviously ezm3/cvsup don't build from scratch
Gnome2 and kde 3 aren't happy, I know one of them didn't like a library
that wasn't built with -fPIC, I think that it was an XFree library
though, I don't really remember.
I'm sure there are a number of others that won't work without emulation
(i.e. packages we don't' have the source code for), and anything that
uses x86 assembly code will probably not work either :-)


seth


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Adriaan de Groot
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:56 PM
To: amd64@freebsd.org
Subject: bootstrapping

So, while I'm waiting for my K8V to be RMA'ed, I'm thinking about how to
go 
about integrating this amd64 box into my network and getting it running.
I 
gather there's no really working cvsup, and David's snapshot build from
way 
back is (a) from wayback (b) unstable under load.

I've got several running systems, both -STABLE and -CURRENT, with
cvsupped 
/usr/src's. The /usr/src's are NFS exported, and I've got a spare
cheap-ass 
NIC (yes, an RTL 8029). Supposing I boot a 4-STABLE drive with rl(4) in
place 
in an amd64 box - what do I need to do to get it up to speed (heck,
let's 
make it a 5-CURRENT drive, since we've got the 4-to-5 upgrade otherwise
as 
well).

- do I need to cvsup anything special? extra branches? are all the
sources for 
all the architectures normally in a /usr/src/sys?

- does X "just build" then?

Getting all this (and the machine) together ought to take me a while,
and I 
promise to be quite while that happens :)

[ade]

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