From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 1 09:34:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD5A16A41A for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B8F13C458 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so1085435mue for ; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:34:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xz4Yyr0/mFFvWQBfnT0ro8O27rXfYH9t0W3Nhh5ZgzM=; b=tK95ojT26va/BXFjcmG8G3YPpP4F3hRRzDl+1ii3RW1w6ZzIR/wgV2l3oligPLMtPkNIgR5gsfIR/lpFsYEEdz1kfqWAL4hSz6CLJLndV/vovt2Pq8vhvaGJM9VFe30CFrIKM49YY8NKjDB9Veu1afmbg1WCRAheQdWWM2kBDP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XT+yf4ts5srma8q+xAakZSqP9eEFMM3VjnVRnSt8W38zOxq3KDnquB7RPnjFQhYT/0u/5UoPcLWWARSgp7VUQJBWuys1tXHBfIY/H9486XDudkhr0C6FSLHkrTRIc6tBQAzUE4BCuFzmlquxiNfTSHY8gB51NxxKX+mxsXwsyxU= Received: by 10.86.25.17 with SMTP id 17mr8202156fgy.1196500130286; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?194.186.18.14? ( [194.186.18.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y18sm10753954fkd.2007.12.01.01.08.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:08:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4751248C.4040500@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:08:28 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <200712011015.58979.antik@bsd.ee> In-Reply-To: <200712011015.58979.antik@bsd.ee> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Xorg meta ports bloated dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:34:42 -0000 Andrei Kolu wrote: > Saturday 01 December 2007 05:20:40 kirjutas dexterclarke@safe-mail.net: >> I've just been helping somebody through an installation of >> 6.2-RELEASE and we've noticed the excessive dependencies of >> the xorg meta ports. >> >> xorg-server 1.4, for example, depends on: >> >> dbus-1.0.2_2, dbus-glib-0.74, glib-2.14.2, gnome_subr-1.0, >> hal-0.5.8.20070909 and even strange things like cdrtools-2.01_6. >> >> xorg-server 1.2 (the one distributed with the 6.2-RELEASE CD) >> doesn't have these dependencies. >> >> Putting it bluntly: why is this crap being dragged in? Neither >> of us use GNOME or anything that might require dbus. I can't see >> why xorg-server could possibly need any of the above? >> >> Anxiously awaiting a flaming argument. >> > And why xorg should include ugly fonts like adobe* an type1*? Because it IS a *META* port and should install everything that is part of xorg distribution? You are free to install the ports that you need, use WITHOUT_HAL for xorg-server, etc. And there are many people who think that ttf fonts are ugly, and bitmap and type1 fonts are more readable. Yuri