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Date:      Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:19:37 -0800
From:      Joshua Lokken <joshua@twobirds.us>
To:        Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why can't I write this file?
Message-ID:  <20040309211937.GB72299@voyager.swabbies.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040309141025.GB16123@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>
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* Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> [2004-03-09 14:34]:
> On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 04:53:12PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
> > At 04:42 PM 3/8/2004, Dan Nelson wrote:
> > 
> > >What do you get if you run the "id" command?  Try logging out and back
> > >in.  Group memberships are checked at login time, so if you were added
> > >to the www group recently, your current shell may not know about it.
> > 
> > Would rehash fix that or do you have to log back in?
> 
> No -- rehash only applies to tcsh(1)'s lookup cache of all of the
> executables found on $PATH.

And so please excuse my erroneous response.

  
> > It's kind of strange but true how you could be logged onto the same account 
> > on two different ttys or ssh sessions and have different sets of gids or 
> > commands available to you. <just thinking out loud>
> 
> Yes, quite.  Your login credentials are established when you login to
> the system and only then -- that's when the limits of what you're
> authorized to do are set, which includes amongst other things which
> groups you're a member of.  So you have to log out and back in again
> to pick up any changes to /etc/master.passwd or /etc/group.
> 
> 	Cheers,
> 
> 	Matthew
> 
> -- 
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Joshua



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