From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 8 17:15:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0327B14A2D for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:15:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwakers@home.com) Received: from c67050-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com ([24.5.221.231]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990909001508.JWXE21497.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c67050-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:15:08 -0700 Received: by c67050-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BEFA1E.2327DB10@c67050-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:18:15 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEFA1E.2327DB10@c67050-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com> From: "Michael W. Akers" To: "shreela@dcnet2000.com" , "'dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au'" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: Win on master/BSD on slave? Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:18:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug, It's actually a lot easier for a collage student in the USA to get a = computer or even a second computer. First they are cheaper, second they = are usually donated by businesses or from families that have outgrown = their older system, etc. As for maintaining a MS Windows box, most all = collages require information technology conformity. Even though the = students will be working on Unix, Windows, VAX, VMS, etc. When = submitting reports and getting information from the collage they must = use Windows (for collages this is a comfortable level of conformity). = This was why I was suggesting she go to a dual system as opposed to just = FreeBSD or some sort of dual boot arraignment.=20 Plus if she asks around campus (especially if she asks any of the = computer 'nerds') she could probably get the second system for a song. = Most collages also hold flea markets, in which computers are sold for a = pittance. If her parents wanted to buy the second box they could get her = one for around $300.00 through mail order. She can also apply for a US = Government grant for scholastic needs (Computers, etc.) she doesn't even = need to pay it back, just maintain a 3.0 grade average or better.=20 By having both OS's, networking them together, etc. She will have a = learning and skill set that will get her a better job after collage than = if she didn't. As for printing, have BSD lpr filter through a = ghostscript filter and then send it to NT for printing. I do and it = works like a charm. ( I have become thoroughly discussed with Unix = printing, I now just have Unix spool it and send it to NT for processing = ).=20 If she takes my advice and documents everything, she can get credit for = it in more than one venue. I.e. If she is also taking Technical Writing = she could also submit it for extra credit work also. :P By working with both OS's she will be gaining very valuable skills for = the current job market (and future too). I do hope she takes this to her = councilor though, I think she will be very surprised at the sheer scope = of the possibilities awaiting her. The soap box is now yours.... Michael W. Akers M. Akers Enterprises Unix/NT Systems Administration and Systems Integration ---------- From: dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au [SMTP:dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 2:52 PM To: mwakers@home.com; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; = shreela@dcnet2000.com Subject: Re: Win on master/BSD on slave? As for the Windows documentation, install a Postscript Printer driver = under Windows and when you want to transfer Windows DOC or WRI format = documents to Unix print them to FILE as Postscript. Most WUSIWUG Unix = editors use Postscript as their basic document format. That will certainly work well .... but a bit expensive solution for a = student. There was a discussion on the questions list a while back about = a utility called "CUPS" thats supposed to let unix send print jobs = directly to regular desktop inkjet printers .... it that works it might = possibly be a more economical solution for home use. As for the rest, You might want to sit back and think about this a = little more.=20 My suggestion would be to get a second computer and install FreeBSD on = that. This way you can be more productive (in any given time frame). I = do not know why you want FreeBSD ( although you have picked the BEST = free OS in my opinion ), if it is due to the courses that you are taking = then you definitely need to consider the following: I agree .... its probably the best solution as long as the money is = available. What I use in situations where a second machine is out of the = question is either one of those generic $25 (in Australia anyway) = removable hard drive thingies to disconnect the drive I don't want to = boot, or if the motherboard is a reasonably late one just go into BIOS = and temporarily disable the primary master ..... always worked better = for me than those boot managers 1) Win95 is essentially a games OS, it is also very prone to crashing = when you least expect it, I strongly recommend that you switch to = Windows NT Workstation. (For stability, if for no other reason). As long as she doesn't have heaps of legacy games :) ..... but then do = moderately "serious" BSD hackers waste time on such triviality ??=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message