Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:45:35 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Cc: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160308154535.GC70809@zxy.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <56DED60C.8060004@quip.cz> References: <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <20160308124016.GA70809@zxy.spb.ru> <20160308131847.GP1531@FreeBSD.org> <56DED60C.8060004@quip.cz>
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On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 02:39:24PM +0100, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > Glen Barber wrote on 03/08/2016 14:18: > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 03:40:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > [...] > > >> Packaging of individual utilites is useless (total 19MB vs > >> 30.7+2.8+20.7+2.9) and incorrect (for example, WITHOUT_ACCT not only > >> don't build accton/lastcomm/sa but also cut off accaunting code from > >> kernel for space saving and perforamce). > >> > > > > Packaging individual utilities is not useless, depending on who you ask. > > One of the first replies I received when starting separating userland > > utilities into separate packages was further splitting rwho(1) and > > rwhod(8) into different packages, the use case being not necessarily > > needing (or wanting) the rwho(1) utility on systems where rwhod(8) runs. > > I didn't tried pkg base yet but I read posts on mailinglist. I > understand the need of separating and splitting on the one side and I > understand the fear of too long list of packages when one need to do > some maintenance (update or upgrade). So one idea come to my mind - what > about some meta-packages like "utilities, kernel, libs32, debug" hiding > all details about real packages if there are some env variable or > command line switch turned on? > Meta-packages is used in current ports for things like PHP extensions. > These ports meta-packages are not hiding real packages so this can be > improved for base packages. Complexly not only in long list of packages: - comparing two list from different setups - checking for missing of install some packages - checking for installed additional packages - depends calculating (not all host run on power hardware, I am use VIA C3, for example) All of this don't resolving by meta-packages. > It is just a quick idea how to satisfy both sides ;) > > Miroslav Lachman >
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