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Date:      Sat, 2 Feb 2019 13:14:00 +0000
From:      Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com>
To:        Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com>
Cc:        =?utf-8?Q?Goran_Meki=C4=87?= <meka@tilda.center>, freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>
Subject:   Re: The status of docker
Message-ID:  <51ED3AFB-2A77-43B0-9516-96FDBB18A498@exonetric.com>
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> On 2 Feb 2019, at 11:59, Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
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> On 01/02/2019 22:04, Goran Meki=C4=87 wrote:
>> On 1 February 2019 20:39:31 CET, Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> =
<mailto:list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>> On 31/01/2019 07:50, Mark Blackman wrote:
>> What problem are you trying to solve with docker?
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>> There is a misunderstanding. I am not trying to solve any problem. =
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>> team I am working with is using docker during development (by using a=20=

>> preconfigured container they avoid having to setup a complex backend=20=

>> system on development/CI machines). I was hoping to use FreeBSD =
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>> the development but it proved difficult. I now have a choice of =
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>> switching to Linux natively (as bhyve didn't help) or to use MacBook =
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>> - both supporting docker out of the box.
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>> Thanks
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>> GrzegorzJ
>> freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org =
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>> Does it have to be docker? When I faced similar problem, I thought it =
was wise to invest time in development inside jail, so I wrote Reggae =
based on CBSD. I'll publish a bugfix version as soon as i get back from =
FOSDEM so you might give it a try. I wrote few ansible playbooks for =
services I needed in jail like PostgreSQL, RabbitMQ, mail based on =
postfix+dovecot, etc. Reggae is inspired by docker compose and Vagrant, =
hence you can run multiple jails per project, like docker compose.
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> Well, only I am using FreeBSD. The others are using Macs for =
development. So technically it makes more sense for me to use their =
tools rather than trying to convince them to switch to FreeBSD and use =
jails.
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> Reggae sounds great but sadly it's not going to help me here.
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> GrzegorzJ
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I always liked Bryan Cantrill=E2=80=99s dissection of Docker=E2=80=99s =
virtues here:

https://www.joyent.com/blog/dockers-killer-feature =
<https://www.joyent.com/blog/dockers-killer-feature>;

And I=E2=80=99ve seen a few people suggest the most crucial contribution =
of docker was the docker image format.

- Mark=



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