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Date:      Mon, 10 May 1999 17:22:29 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Alex Zepeda <garbanzo@hooked.net>
To:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
Cc:        Brian Handy <handy@lambic.physics.montana.edu>, Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>, Bob Willcox <bob@pmr.com>, hackers list <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Native Applixware for FreeBSD -- When? 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.95.990510171645.3647C-100000@fish.hooked.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905101951540.401-100000@picnic.mat.net>

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On Mon, 10 May 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:

> That's a good idea.  Folks who walk around bad-mouthing anything that is
> sold for money, well, that's a blind prejudice, and about as accurate as
> most blind prejudices.

Oh please, I wasn't badmouthing the comercial products by virtue that one
has to pay for them.  But quite frankly the major comercial offerings suck
and/or are available only for LInux.

> FWIW, there is NOT a good WYSIWYG free wp.  The only ones out there use
> TeX as a backdrop, which means they are extremely dependent on initial
> document style, and awfully hard to modify in midstream.  They are good
> tools, but there is NOT one single free wp in the useability range of
> applixware or WordPerfect.

Yeah, look what the comercial companies have developed.  Navigator is the
biggest piece of crap on FreeBSD, and StarOffice makes Applix look petite. 

> I wish there was, but wishing won't make it so, and bad mouthing
> anything commercial won't either.

Yes, and bending over and saying, oh another year is just fine doesn't do 
much for you.  As for Applix, they've sure reaped a decent amount of money
and shoved it god knows where.  Or look at Oracle.

> Unless the company involved is just not willing to give enough hours a
> week to it.  With FreeBSD's demonstrated utter lack of concern over
> maintaining a stable API for developers, it's not hard to see why folks
> wouldn't be anxious to sell to us.

What?!  Since when?  Look at how stable FreeBSD has remained. 
Occasionally a recompile or somesuch to adjust to different sized
structures, as opposed to the rabid source tweaking required regularly by
the libc5 to libc6 to libc6.1 changes necesitated by Linux's "progressive
attitude". 

- alex

You better believe that marijuana can cause castration.  Just suppose your
girlfriend gets the munchies!



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