From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 10 11:07:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09936 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09880; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA08130; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:06:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id UAA05927; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:06:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19981010200607.56951@follo.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:06:07 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: alk@pobox.com, wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: inetd is ill? syslogd is anemic? References: <13854.19308.314677.685227@avalon.east> <199810092335.TAA25121@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <13854.56585.707371.316487@avalon.east> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <13854.56585.707371.316487@avalon.east>; from Tony Kimball on Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:06:40PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:06:40PM -0500, Tony Kimball wrote: > Quoth Garrett Wollman on Fri, 9 October: > : < said: > : > : > This has been occurring for almost a week -- of a sudden, I get a few > : > hundred of these: > : > Oct 9 12:30:22 avalon /kernel: pid 756 (inetd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > : > : Buy more memory. > > I don't believe it. There is more than 100MB of swap free at this point, > and it is still happening. This is a known, OLD bug. It was one of the bugs introduced or exposed by John Dysons changes to the VM system. He was working on this at the time he left, if I understood correctly. In some cases, the VM system goes awry when you go out of memory. This seems especially common if it is netscape that eats the memory (don't ask me why; possibly it only seems that way because Netscape eating the memory iss the most common situation on my box). In these cases, at least sendmail, inetd and syslog will have problems when forking - they'll get a sig11 right after the fork (I don't know how 'right after' translates, sorry - timewise, it is just about at once). I've not explicitly tried to reproduce this bug and track down this, as it means a lot of hassle to me when it occurs, and I've got enough trouble as it is (sorry). It seems to be reproducable - it happens "pretty often". My machine is a PPro-based box - I don't know if this matter. I seem to remember it also happening after I upgraded to 80MB; I know it happened when I had 64MB, at least. I can try to reproduce it if somebody that know more about the VM system than me has some clues as to what I should do to track it down - in that case, I'd like to get the clues by tomorrow (so I can spend tomorrow attempt to find it; I most likely don't have time between then and the release). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message