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Date:      Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:35:16 -0500 (EST)
From:      Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
To:        Ade Lovett <ade@lovett.com>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>, "Chris D. Faulhaber" <jedgar@fxp.org>, "David E. O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ports/15135: new port: devel/cervisia
Message-ID:  <XFMail.991128213516.andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>
In-Reply-To: <19991128201850.A61560@lovett.com>

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On 29-Nov-99 Ade Lovett wrote:
> But the compiler gap between -STABLE and -CURRENT is now so wide that
> such measures do probably need to be taken.

I agree with this particular statement.. frankly, I've wondered why gcc 2.91.66
wasn't MFC'd to 3.x long ago (David?). After all, it's been in -CURRENT for
several months (at the very least). And all we need is 2.91.66, since that is
the earliest version (that I know of) which supports the newer ANSI ISO C++
standards. That is, the new standard apparently not supported by the older gcc.

Can we not MFC gcc 2.91.66 to RELENG_3 for a future version of 3.x? I am sure
this can be done, although I can also hear some people wondering whether this is
common sense, since some people may not need the support boasted by the new gcc.

> If such a change does happen, it may also be worth considering synchronising
> it with a move to USE_NEWGCC for the GNOME metaport, since there seems to
> be increasing amount of third-party code that can take advantage of both
> environments.

I also agree here.. although I can't think of any ports offhand that require
newgcc and gnome (and/or kde).

Bottom line - I don't think it will be long before newgcc will be required all
over the KDE & GNOME plates. The sooner it's implemented, the better.

Thus, in the next updates for KDE and GNOME ports, we really should do a
version bump (i.e., libkdeui.so.2 -> libkdeui.so.6 or similar) in order to
force people to use newgcc in order to get the newer apps compiled properly. Of
course, that means we'd have to sync all the KDE and GNOME-based apps depending
on newgcc'd libraries.

It's just another hurdle. Similar to marcel's <sys/signal.h> fame.

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