From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 01:40:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721B91065677 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihteshamali@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E528FC25 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihteshamali@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so320312pyb.10 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=g9fm7usuzBVQYupzCSMR/A0SLns+vRvs6j9EmSzrulI=; b=FtusTzyMSw6Af2WPJJ+mtYkyGPcrXvbVSN4SKIgLU7wV7AIirIRMi8IRf2i1oyq+qT z5Z2Hb3fFj/CogQ58tUQRCKf2REI6OPOFoFER6JDFG8DCjVVrzUlO0ly6X9QJxXvX2c7 h7mjLZLCiInAiD+V4NIvNB9xI2tGT9uAUbzK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Qi9+iignszqojUnWsdAUrRfCnUWZIxS06lS7A2+JgmgmB1n4Y/JgIf5+Kb0avM3EIx 4fSC7EpphPpsTr2en1DxQY4dkHHo2ekvCmtCbvEsnG/1RRrLD5RIjCmyj0sIMIhlHFxL fqqHTydZdThQj4nhhODkhSQ/hSlCxGx0ELsmk= Received: by 10.142.223.4 with SMTP id v4mr255138wfg.48.1212628368210; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.81.5 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <83fc7c9e0806041812o2a249bf8w9e63d8f38f6ae39e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:12:48 +0500 From: "Ihtesham Ali" To: "Alexey Dokuchaev" , "Wilko Bulte" , "Coleman Kane" In-Reply-To: <20080604041815.GA84027@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200805301426.m4UEQ92d025434@repoman.freebsd.org> <48405C4B.3050603@FreeBSD.org> <1212179252.1967.1.camel@localhost> <20080604041815.GA84027@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Maxim Sobolev , src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Florent Thoumie , cvs-src@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add main.c pkg_add.1 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/create main.c pkg_create.1 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete main.c pkg_delete.1 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/info main.c pkg_info.1 ... X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:40:06 -0000 On 04/06/2008, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > I'd rather avoid long options in *BSD utilities. They're hard to > remember, easy to confuse, while not really gaining us anything useful Exactly! -1 Florent Thoumie's bringing up a possibility and considering to go by the general consensus is healthy though, and I completely appreciate it. On 05/06/2008, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Well I indeed do not agree. Aren't the developers old enough > to make this kind of judgement call themselves, without all sorts of written > policies? Policies in such projects are generally not against anyone but for everyone. It's nice of the committer that they in a way have sought your opinion. I'm sure you don't want FreeBSD to look like a haywire Linux distro anytime soon. I hope FreeBSD doesn't become a soup. P.S. I am not against the Linux culture, in fact I am happy that they are happy with it. I merely referred to FreeBSD's distinction of being an excellent advanced operating system project from every aspect. On 05/06/2008, Coleman Kane wrote: > Making up a book of obtuse policy > rules such as this, for purposes that aren't very concrete, doesn't seem > to serve anybody well. Anything that can affect habits of a larger group of BSDists is at least worth a second thought. Long options are not just about me but a lot more out there who may not even know of the discussion, so I'd try to be more considerate. -- Ali