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Date:      Sun, 25 May 2008 16:09:38 -0400
From:      Coleman Kane <cokane@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Birrell <jb@what-creek.com>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, John Birrell <jb@FreeBSD.org>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src Makefile
Message-ID:  <1211746178.1510.56.camel@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20080525195955.GB5179@what-creek.com>
References:  <200805250248.m4P2mv8U026913@repoman.freebsd.org> <20080525180014.S63463@fledge.watson.org> <20080525195955.GB5179@what-creek.com>

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On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 19:59 +0000, John Birrell wrote:
> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 06:03:22PM +0100, Robert Watson wrote:
> > Is there something in your recent work that prevents sun4v from compili=
ng=20
> > and hence justifies disabling it entirely, and hence guaranteeing it wo=
n't=20
> > compile in the future because it falls off the "make it compile" radar?=
  If=20
> > so, then a policy decision to drop sun4v support may be called for -- b=
ut=20
> > this is something to discuss with the people who added support for the=20
> > architecture, the release engineering team, etc, and not to make=20
> > unilaterally.
>=20
> When I added sun4v to universe back in 2006, I had hopes that it would
> live up to it's early promise. Adding it back then was premature. I guess
> you could say I made a unilateral decision back then. :-D
>=20
> The last time I checked, the sun4v port wouldn't even boot on my T2000,
> so I have to ask if there is anyone who even knows that. Or cares.
> Just keeping the code compiling is not good enough. It has to actually=20
> work.
>=20
> I haven't removed any support for building sun4v. I just think that the
> few people who do build universe shouldn't have to wait for a dead
> port to build.
>=20
>=20
> --
> John Birrell
>=20

FWIW, to anybody with time+interest, you can get these things on-loan
for free from Sun Microsystems as part of their try-and-buy program. So,
if anybody wants to turn the sun4v into a pet project, Sun has greased
the wheels a bit for you already. The specs on these systems look
impressive, I just didn't have the time to mess with it when I tried. I
still get pings every few months from a Sun rep...

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Coleman Kane

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