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Date:      Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:46:15 -0700
From:      Gary Kline <>
To:        Steve Franks <>
Cc:        Gary Kline <>, FreeBSD Mailing List <>
Subject:   Re: OT:: anybody on-list use "PC-BSD"? or "bSD-PC"?
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:24:00PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote:
> My experience with PC-BSD was that it was just different enough to
> break alot of FreeBSD's documentation, and they don't have enough of
> their own.  I was a newbie, of course, but I went with vanilla FreeBSD
> because of the handbook and freebsd-questions, and I've no regrets.
> Been at least 9 months.  Course I like to hack.

	I've hacked some of the src code when I *had* to,  but my main
	goal is to have a for-fun server which is easy to maintain and
	where most ports work.   Desktop-BSD sounds lkie the better
	choice if PC-BSD isn't easy to upgrade.  ...Then again, since
	FBSD keeps improving, maybe it/we have the "real" Desktop:-)

	OTOH, is PC-BSD upgrades *everything* when you go from, say,
	1.4 to 1.4.1 (every six months), no package management system 
	would be necessary.  --I really do understand the problems the
	ports/packages stuff has.  I've been using FBSD since 2.0.5--
	One of the faults with Ubuntu (aside that its filesystem eats/ate
	some files) is that to upgrade means risking disaster if you
	hit/bump/strike the wrong key.  

> Steve
	[[ ... ]]

> >
> > I've used PC-BSD, and agree with Jonathan - it's package management
> > system is a bit funky. It's real FreeBSD, but...
> >
> > I've also used Freesbie, which is a live CD with (last I looked) an
> > XFCE4 desktop, and I liked it. In particular, I liked that it would
> > install itself to your machine if you told it to do so, and then it
> > became just a standard FreeBSD install. That was about a year ago,
> > though, so I expect it's even better now.
> >
> > Kurt

	Thanks for everyone's comments, onlist and off.  The only
	question I haveleft is how to install PC- or Desktop-BSD.
	Do I download a couple floppies and install from there, 
	buy a CD or DVD, or download a CD's worth of binaries?  I'm
	wedged with a slow DSL/IDSN link, so it suck 600+ MB over the
	wire means 15 hours.    


> -- 
> Steve Franks, KE7BTE
> Staff Engineer
> La Palma Devices, LLC
> (520) 312-0089

  Gary Kline  Public Service Unix

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