From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 10 17:46:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325F916A421 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC1C13C469 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l7AHkGcd026533; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l7AHkG2S026532; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:46:15 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Steve Franks Message-ID: <20070810174615.GC26327@thought.org> References: <20070810011648.GA19606@thought.org> <539c60b90708092124t51930f7ay4654fb05b6c8f302@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <539c60b90708092124t51930f7ay4654fb05b6c8f302@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT:: anybody on-list use "PC-BSD"? or "bSD-PC"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:46:18 -0000 On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:24:00PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > My experience with PC-BSD was that it was just different enough to > break alot of FreeBSD's documentation, and they don't have enough of > their own. I was a newbie, of course, but I went with vanilla FreeBSD > because of the handbook and freebsd-questions, and I've no regrets. > Been at least 9 months. Course I like to hack. > I've hacked some of the src code when I *had* to, but my main goal is to have a for-fun server which is easy to maintain and where most ports work. Desktop-BSD sounds lkie the better choice if PC-BSD isn't easy to upgrade. ...Then again, since FBSD keeps improving, maybe it/we have the "real" Desktop:-) OTOH, is PC-BSD upgrades *everything* when you go from, say, 1.4 to 1.4.1 (every six months), no package management system would be necessary. --I really do understand the problems the ports/packages stuff has. I've been using FBSD since 2.0.5-- One of the faults with Ubuntu (aside that its filesystem eats/ate some files) is that to upgrade means risking disaster if you hit/bump/strike the wrong key. > Steve > [[ ... ]] > > > > I've used PC-BSD, and agree with Jonathan - it's package management > > system is a bit funky. It's real FreeBSD, but... > > > > I've also used Freesbie, which is a live CD with (last I looked) an > > XFCE4 desktop, and I liked it. In particular, I liked that it would > > install itself to your machine if you told it to do so, and then it > > became just a standard FreeBSD install. That was about a year ago, > > though, so I expect it's even better now. > > > > Kurt Thanks for everyone's comments, onlist and off. The only question I haveleft is how to install PC- or Desktop-BSD. Do I download a couple floppies and install from there, buy a CD or DVD, or download a CD's worth of binaries? I'm wedged with a slow DSL/IDSN link, so it suck 600+ MB over the wire means 15 hours. gary > > > -- > Steve Franks, KE7BTE > Staff Engineer > La Palma Devices, LLC > http://www.lapalmadevices.com > (520) 312-0089 -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix