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Date:      Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:55:51 -0700
From:      Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
Message-ID:  <20081207195551.GB34325@kokopelli.hydra>
In-Reply-To: <20081207191727.V1610@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 07:18:08PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >Does anyone know of any recent progress on a 64bit Nvidia Driver?
> >there is mention of progress on this page
> >http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3D41545&page=3D24
>=20
> most freebsd users don't need 3D at all, or don't need super-high-speed=
=20
> 3D.
>=20
> so simply don't use nvidia/ati

That strikes me as short-sighted, narrow-minded, and self-fulfilling.

  1. As long as there is not as much support for 3D accelerated graphics
  with FreeBSD, people who need 3D accelerated graphics will tend to use
  other OSes more often.

  2. The fact that you apparently have some kind of zealous hatred of the
  idea of FreeBSD on the desktop doesn't mean there are not legitimate
  uses for FreeBSD on the desktop -- uses that may even include things
  like 3D accelerated graphics.  Hell, I get better performance for WoW
  using Wine than I do on MS Windows.

  3. There are uses for 3D accelerated graphics that don't even include
  "desktop" use.  Rendering farms come to mind.

The more you say "Most FreeBSD users don't need 3D at all, so just use
something else if you need 3D," and sweep the problem under the rug, the
more likely we are to never have a FreeBSD that offers broad, stable
support for 3D accelerated graphics.  I would like it if you'd stop
trying to convince people that my favorite OS shouldn't be improved.

--=20
Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Henry Spencer: "Those who don't understand Unix are doomed to
reinvent it, poorly."

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