From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jul 30 20:22:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27707 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (root@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27701 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i4got.lakewood.com (fh-ppp12.monmouth.com [205.164.221.44]) by shell.monmouth.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24189; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by i4got.lakewood.com id XAA18269 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Pechter Message-ID: <199707310322.XAA18269@i4got.lakewood.com> Subject: Re: Sysadmin levels today? To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199707310251.MAA25263@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Jul 31, 97 12:21:47 pm" Reply-to: pechter@lakewood.com X-Phone-Number: 908-389-3592 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I went on a support call this morning, for a mail gateway/web proxy I > installed a couple of weeks back. The customer in question is a > software development house; the BSD system is in a room full of > Decstations and SCO boxen on which they do their work. > > I spent an hour of my time, as well as that of three of their > developers and one of the directors teaching them : > > How to edit the /etc/aliases file to forward mail. > > Unbelievable. I hope you charged well. BTW -- I found that application developers were less likely to learn the administrative workings of their systems then tech support types or helpdesk types. If they're lucky they hire a good competent admin and keep the coders coding instead of trying to figure out how to make rsh or tcpip or uucp work. It saves a lot of money. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 | 908-389-3592 pechter@lakewood.com | Save computing history, give an old geek old hardware. This msg brought to you by the letters PDP and the number 11.