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Date:      Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:15:34 -0800
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Paul Murphy <pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>
Cc:        steve@FreeBSD.ORG, lioux@FreeBSD.ORG, portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: GNOME/KDE issue with disc1
Message-ID:  <20011209181534.B1921@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011209192745.3597e2dc.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>; from pnmurphy@cogeco.ca on Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500
References:  <20011207181333.A97777@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209012306.A96687@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209183512.1467.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20011209142050.M46667@bsd.havk.org> <20011209151048.B92399@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209192745.3597e2dc.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>

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On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Paul Murphy wrote:
>  Personally I would think disc1 should take a "lets get up and running"
> attitude, and contain a "simpler" desktop. KDE and GNOME are way too
> bloated for a _basic_ install.

To follow up on this,

We however can do a little bit better about what KDE and GNOME bits we
put on the first CDROM -- I got this private email (I don't believe they
will mind if I quote part of it anonymously):

    So far as KDE goes, it is not at all monolithic and is already quite
    well organized into modules which are easily broken up from each
    other.  You will get a working, if sparse, desktop including a
    browser, file manager, and editors, with just kdelibs and kdebase
    (and Qt of course).  

    You'll get a pretty much full featured and powerful "average joe
    user" desktop with the addition of say, kdemultimedia and kdenetwork.    

    You could have a really quite powerful office or home office desktop,
    by adding back the KOffice package.  I'm basing this, by the way, on
    a general feeling of which packages KDE users find most useful - the
    exact arrangement is what we're here to discuss.

    libs + base = 18 Mb
    libs + base + network + multimedia = 27 Mb
    libs + base + network + multimedia + office = 36 Mb

    Even this would be a very useful Desktop Environment, and it's half
    the size of installing every package that's required (the script said
    something around 79 Mb) 

-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)

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