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Date:      Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:14:57 +0200
From:      Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
To:        FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Who was the mental genius
Message-ID:  <5392F431.6070208@sorbs.net>
In-Reply-To: <20140606134121.730cd435@scorpio>
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Jerry wrote:
> Really ...
> Hi, I am a FreeBSD user, and I would like to report a problem that doesn't
> exist. I have a theoretical solution for this unknown problem, but I cannot
> test it because I cannot create the environment.
>
> Seriously, there are plenty of real problems. Attempting to anticipate
> theoretical ones and then devise hypothetical solutions is a job best left
> to those working on quantum physics.
>
>   
That's a little unfair (but I get your point) .. in this case though
noting comments everywhere this is not something unknown - it was known
that :T -> :tu would break the old make and it was also known for
sometime when it would happen (comments elsewhere in this months
archives say the change was postponed until 8.3 went EOL - so advance
warning would have been possible (in this case)... and that should have
been easy by performing a make version check... (
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-October/222214.html
)

Not meaning this to beat Baptiste... but yes it could have been handled
better - and this is not the first time - I have 30 production servers
stuck on 6.1 because when FreeBSD got to a certain level (7.3?) the same
thing happened... Security issues you cry!?  Not an issue - they are
firewalled and the software on them (exception the base OS) has no CVE's
(or didn't at the time) for the options compiled and used... sure the
base OS might have vulnerabilities, but if anyone gets through the
application gateway to a root prompt to be able to exploit those issues
I have many serious problems that a "skipt kiddie" with root will be one
of the least of the issues..

Michelle

-- 
Michelle Sullivan
http://www.mhix.org/




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