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Date:      Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:02:47 +0100
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r402813 - head/misc/astrolog
Message-ID:  <565EB3B7.8030208@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <565EB1AC.4000508@freebsd.org>
References:  <201512020629.tB26TbDb060296@repo.freebsd.org> <565E9DFA.6050502@marino.st> <565EAB52.6010301@freebsd.org> <565EAD1E.8080805@marino.st> <565EB1AC.4000508@freebsd.org>

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On 12/2/2015 9:54 AM, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> 
> 3) Contact the person who does most commits to this port.

I think this is a dream.  I don't expect people to sort through the
history and try to figure out a commit pattern, plus the presence of a
prior commit doesn't imply a willingness for a future commit.


> IMHO ports@freebsd.org means "collectively maintained" (without any
> obligation, but with good intentions). There is no reason to put e-mail
> address in this field otherwise, just the word "unmaintained" which
> clearly indicates no contacts.

This is incorrect.  It's ports@FreeBSD.org because it needs a valid
email address, in this case a mail list.

This philosophical disagreement is a problem, because I would sooner
deprecate an unmaintained port than fix it.  If you care about this port
so much, then adopt it.


> BTW, maintained ports for me is worse thing. I can quickly fix any
> unmaintained port, but for maintained one I need to wait 2 weeks timeout
> and by my personal stats only ~20% maintainers reply. Either their
> emails are dead or they just ignore requests. We even don't have any
> automation to collect and remove dead maintainer addresses in regular basis.

The good news is that after 3 timeouts (or less depending on
circumstances) you can reset the maintainer.  If it's a one time
timeout, that's life.  If it's a theme, then we have options.


John



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