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Date:      Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:15:01 -0700
From:      "Gary Frerking (TurboPower)" <garyf@turbopower.com>
To:        "'questions@FreeBSD.org'" <questions@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   non-X install?
Message-ID:  <714AD8888E79D211978700A0C90DFDB72F7362@inetmail1.turbopower.com>

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Checked the docs, checked the FAQs. If this is covered, I missed it.

The FreeBSD install (and package system) seems to be geared towards
installing X (or having X installed) -- is there a way around this?

A couple examples: installing, then subsequently running cvsup or the full
vim package on a non-X machine gives me an error like 'Shared object
"libXaw.so.6" not found'.

I've done some Google searching on this, and see various answers like "you
have to have X installed to run that" or "recompile with the X support
turned off". So I understand the problem (I think) -- but I'd like to know
if there's a better way to avoid the problem in the first place?

Do most people install X? I would guess a reasonable number of people don't.

From what I've seen of FreeBSD, I like it (been using it a couple months
now) -- but this is one thing that *seems* like it could be cleaner in some
way. 

I've been using Linux for a few years now and don't recall running into
anything similar under similar circumstances -- I use binary RPMs to install
and update things, and the apps that optionally use X just seem to deal with
it if no X is installed (or maybe the system deals with it, or maybe RPM
doesn't install X dependant things, I dunno -- it just works).

Hope I didn't touch any nerves by mentioning the "L" word, but it's my best
point of comparison at the moment.

I'm actually pretty happy with FreeBSD overall, and I plan to buy 4.3 when
it becomes available -- but I'd sure appreciate it if you showed me the
trick to avoiding problems like this while using packages in a non-X world
(or consider making changes if necessary in the future).

Thanks much.

-- Gary Frerking
-- gary@frerking.org

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