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Date:      Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:01:01 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com>
To:        handy@lambic.physics.montana.edu, scrappy@hub.org
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, des@flood.ping.uio.no, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@NUXI.com
Subject:   Re: ATTENTION PLEASE:  g77 in base system.
Message-ID:  <199904091401.KAA32326@lakes.dignus.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9904091036480.55462-100000@thelab.hub.org>

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Brian Handy wrote:
> 
> > On 9 Apr 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > 
> > >> [4 people said "YES!  Add g77!"]
> > 
> > >I beg your pardon? You're adding g77 to the system because you know of
> > >four people who would find it useful? Where's the logic in that?
> > 
> > Well, statistically speaking, that's a bunch of "ayes" and no "noes".
> > Lots of things happen via implicit acceptance.  (I was one of the people
> > who spoke up in favor of this after David mentioned this.)
> > 
> > >If you do add it to the base system, make it optional. I don't care if
> > >it defaults to on, as long as I have the option to turn it off.
> > 
> > This doesn't seem unreasonable.  (I also really like Chuck's idea of
> > adding gcj in the same light.)
> 
> Geez, and I used to think it was only the commercial OSs that had a
> problem with bloat and creeping featurisms ... :(  Chuck's idea makes more
> sense...how many programs does the average system run that needs a fortran
> compiler? *raised eyebrow*

 Personally, I'm not sure g77 is needed, but let me play devil's
advocate here and turn your question around:

	"How many programs does the average system not run because
	 the system doesn't have a FORTRAN compiler?"

That seems to be a more pertinent question...  and - a good bit
more difficult to answer.

	- Dave Rivers -

(My personal preference is to put it in there, with an option to disable 
 it in "make world". )



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