From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 14 19:49:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56B5ABD for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (wollman-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:ccb::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783D0104 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6EJnaC5009320; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:49:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id r6EJnZPp009319; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:49:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:49:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <201307141949.r6EJnZPp009319@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> To: jilles@stack.nl Subject: Re: Ports with daemons on uninstall... In-Reply-To: <20130714191725.GA30708@stack.nl> References: Organization: none X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:49:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:08:26 +0000 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:49:38 -0000 In article <20130714191725.GA30708@stack.nl>, jilles@stack.nl writes: >Apart from the annoyance of the restarts, automatic stopping and >starting is probably the best policy for having things "just work". Some >daemons will crash or otherwise stop being useful when their files have >been deleted or replaced, and the new rc.d script might be unable to >stop the old daemon. Strongly agreed -- and it's what other operating systems do, either by policy or by convention. -GAWollman