From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 17:19:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92871065677 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD6668FC23 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21876 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2011 17:19:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2011 17:19:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=BXymmS7lJX30GMXBh8lNnd9HZFq+o6pZGIVRBXHdfnopQSAjfdvF8eNt/gGUzPTWiM++XoQuo4thp1PrgYKPrP7OXq7jTunn6+L3Cpm2wNVWzSZITxyrl/+PbHbT3SOj; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qjwu3-0006x8-23 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:19:16 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:02:33 -0600 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:02:33 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110721170233.GE69370@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <24466_1311199850_4E27526A_24466_7987_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521866E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <4e28160e.bVryeJCK1esNt615%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110721141534.GC59455@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TD8GDToEDw0WLGOL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:19:17 -0000 --TD8GDToEDw0WLGOL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:21:47PM -0400, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >=20 > Doesn't the NDIS specification offer a reasonably stable ABI for wireless= =20 > drivers? >=20 > I have often thought that supporting NDIS would offer manufacturers a sor= t=20 > of "halfway house" to ease them into proper support for FreeBSD and Linux= .=20 > While it is inferior to open source drivers, it would attract users, and= =20 > with users manufacturers would feel pressure to have better support, whic= h=20 > would best be achieved with open-source drivers. I agree that would probably be a productive approach to improving wireless support over time. I do not know the technical challenges associated with getting that working in FreeBSD, though, or how well it would actually work in practice. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --TD8GDToEDw0WLGOL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4oW6kACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV9kACgx0IR7iSgViOO0jfNTsqgYgCA e7cAnAnP9f+WxnwtSBRfg7c4/KX7hAZw =sZXK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TD8GDToEDw0WLGOL--