From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 19 11:19:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A5615636 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip124.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.124]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEF737075; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:16:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA49946; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:16:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:16:47 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Mike Avery Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jordan the Confused (Was: Jordan The Evil!) Message-ID: <19990419131647.A44240@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <19990418080429.A37740@holly.dyndns.org> <4.2.0.32.19990419093753.0454e490@localhost> <199904191711.MAA26036@hostigos.otherwhen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <199904191711.MAA26036@hostigos.otherwhen.com>; from Mike Avery on Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 11:58:11AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 19, 1999, Mike Avery wrote: > I wish I could say Brett were wrong. As a product reviewer for > InfoWorld (1) I deal with a lot of vendors (2). And when they tell > me they have a cross platform product covering NT, NetWare, and > Unix, I ALWAYS ask, "which flavors of Unix - do you do any of the > free Unices?". NO ONE has told me they support FreeBSD. When > pressed on the matter, and I always ask, the usual response is, > "what's that?" I've never said Brett's type of advocacy was wrong, as far as I remember. I've seen some pretty good press release from him. I've also seen good from Jordan. I haven't been very ``into'' the advocacy side of things until recently, so I can't say I've seen anything bad coming from either of them. I'm thinking of ways to get FreeBSD more recognition without practicing the ``bad'' advocacy discussed before. > They see a lot of progress being made by Linux, and talk about how > Linux is very popular with ISP's. My own sampling suggests that > FreeBSD is even more popular among ISP's, but I don't have hard > figures (3). The vendors just haven't heard of FreeBSD. The local Micro Center ha[sd] a better FreeBSD selection than that for Linux. When I was reading the back of the box sometime last year around this time (this is when I first got FreeBSD), two people came buy and looked at Linux, and then bought FreeBSD instead. We must be doing something right. > While I've been using FreeBSD for about 4 years, I'm a FreeBSD > newbie. My ISP installed it for me, and it's just been sitting in the > corner doing it's thing - flawlessly - ever since. In 4 years, I've had > to replace the CPU fan and the power supply (it's fan died too). A > 133mhz 5x86 with 16 megs of ram has been my link to the internet. > And more (it's also my SendMail host and my web server). I'm sold.... > very sold. > > I've started looking at FreeBSD and the mailing lists more more > because I need to upgrade to a more current system and realize I > need to learn more. We need success stories, and we need to get Rob Malda to stop ignoring the FreeBSD stories. > (3) If you have hard figures regarding FreeBSD use by ISP's, I'd > love to see them. Please send me a pointer, or a copy. This is one of the things I'm looking into. I'm also looking into a decent figure as to how many large, commercial businesses are using FreeBSD. > ====================================================================== > Mike Avery MAvery@mail.otherwhen.com > (409)-842-2942 (work) > ICQ: 16241692 > > * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * > > A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: > Is that my phone bill or the national debt? Yes, it is. -- Chris Costello To err is human; to forgive, beyond the scope of the Operating System. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message