Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:33:40 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org> To: Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com> Cc: Stephen Cass <s.cass@ieee.org>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IEEE Journalist looking for facts about Microsoft use of BSDcode Message-ID: <20010620113339.A577@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <3B30DFC5.6CA7FE66@iowna.com>; from wmoran@iowna.com on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 01:39:17PM -0400 References: <Pine.A41.4.21L1.0106201319001.61084-100000@login3.isis.unc.edu> <3B30DFC5.6CA7FE66@iowna.com>
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 01:39:17PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > Just thought of this ... > I seem to remember fyodor (http://www.insecure.org) stating in one of > his explanations on the working of nmap, that win95, win98 and win NT > displayed reactions to probing that were almost identical to FreeBSD - > to the degree that his conclusion was that these products must be using > the same code as FreeBSD. I don't remember exactly where it was on the > site, so you'll have to hunt ... another option is to contact fyodor > directly (fyodor@insecure.org) > Keep in mind that without contacting someone at Microsoft it will be > difficult to prove, since the software license on the FreeBSD code would > allow Microsoft (or any company) to use the code, resell it and never > give credit to the original source. > > Please be sure to send us all a link to your article when it's ready. > > -Bill I missed this because for unknown reasons, my sendmail mysteriously quit working.... (hmmmmm!) On my website is a link to another article re M$ using FreeBSD code. ...Obviously, Microsoft and anybody else has completely unencumbered rights to use the code, though. gary > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Stephen Cass wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Forgive my intrusion into this mailing list. I'm a journalist with > > > IEEE Spectrum magazine (www.spectrum.ieee.org). I'm following up the > > > Wall Street Journal article of June 18th, which describes how > > > Microsoft uses FreeBSD code. > > > > > > I'm aware that many of the utilities like FTP, etc use BSD code and > > > that services like Hotmail also use FreeBSD servers. What I'm trying > > > to do is follow up on the allegation made in that Microsoft has > > > either directly used or copied BSD code internally in its operating > > > systems, for example in the TCP/IP stack. Can anybody tell me what > > > evidence, if any, exists to back this up, or does anybody know of > > > someone who can answer that question? > > > > > > To respond, please mail me directly. All comments will be considered > > > off-the-record unless and until you agree otherwise. Thank you for > > > your time! > > -- > If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, > then what can I get for two hands in the bush? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Gary D. Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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