From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 11 21:26:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCCE2ED437 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 21:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49LYsn35Czz4D9s for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 21:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [IPv6:2607:fb90:a239:1a16:b4cf:c36d:843a:90c5] (unknown [172.58.140.98]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14CCB4E677 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 16:26:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: How to mount mdf mds in freebsd? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <13534031589224067@vla4-d1c3bcedfacb.qloud-c.yandex.net> <20200511212848.5c3b71be.freebsd@edvax.de> <2c21a31a-6b99-70e7-5c5e-3a4e375b790f@hedeland.org> <59d6e16c-c3bf-2f3f-aa93-d140a3687252@radel.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 16:26:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59d6e16c-c3bf-2f3f-aa93-d140a3687252@radel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49LYsn35Czz4D9s X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[98.140.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.32)[-0.322,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.38)[-0.378,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.14)[ip: (0.40), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.20), asn: 160(0.16), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:26:54 -0000 On 5/11/20 3:30 PM, Jon Radel wrote: > On 5/11/20 16:11, Per Hedeland wrote: >>> PS. >>> >>> Please be so kind and state your question in the message body. >>> Many recipients won't see your empty message because it's being >>> filtered. Thank you! >> +1 (but it will surely be ignored, again). > > Are we sure the OP doesn't have some MUA that believes in HTML *only*--I > believe the list only forwards the plain text variant of the message in > cases of multipart MIME, and I can see unfortunate email being stripped > down to nothing. > > Nikita's headers claim > > X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 > > about which I know nothing useful. > I remember first time (decades ago!) when I subscribed for technical mail list, I read very carefully mail list etiquette. I didn't find exactly the same document, but this one covers some of it: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette It sounds like OP never cared to read one of these, and doesn't care to listen to what he was told multiple times. I can't keep from mentioning: there is one item I partly disagree with the above document on: trimming. I actually have seen several times "creative trimming", which pretty much inverted what person whose text was partly trimmed actually said. The Etiquette document I've read contained variety of suggestions that are not in the document I mentioned above, which make really valid points. Just few of them: 1. do your own home work before asking question, you may not need bother busy people and will learn to find solution yourself which in itself is gratifying 2. When asking question, be concise, yet describe what you tried that didn't solve it (incidentally attempting to describe what you have done often enlightens you on other possibilities). By describing what you have done you demonstrate that you tried to do something, not just want someone else do what you need done. 3. Do not send bogus answers, like: "OK, will try". Just hold yourself, try, and then report success or failure. ... [last but one - my favorite failure, actually] Before sending message, take short break, switch to doing different thing, then re-read your message with fresh eyes, edit and send. [last]. Once problem was solved, take time to summarize what the problem was and how it was solved (and maybe what was tried that didn't work). Send summary, maybe by prepending subject with SOLVED. Note, experts (my way of calling people who help me, because they are!) spent time helping you, help them to avoid wasting time again on the same problem by briefly describing the solution that others will be able to find (you owe experts at least that, and now you started helping others!) Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++