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Date:      Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:46:57 -0500
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>
To:        "Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen" <ncbp@bank-pedersen.dk>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ping response times over ppp
Message-ID:  <19991125174657.13723@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>
In-Reply-To: <19991125234125.A23366@bank-pedersen.dk>; from Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen on Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 11:41:25PM %2B0100
References:  <19991125230609.A23253@bank-pedersen.dk> <19991125173107.16398@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> <19991125234125.A23366@bank-pedersen.dk>

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On Thursday, 25 November 1999 at 23:41:25 +0100, Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 05:31:07PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday, 25 November 1999 at 23:06:09 +0100, Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We are doing some testing of some new network equipment, and I've
>>> stumbled across the following:
>>>
>>>   64 bytes from 192.168.10.10: icmp_seq=22 ttl=253 time=210.361 ms
>>>   64 bytes from 192.168.10.10: icmp_seq=23 ttl=253 time=210.392 ms
>>>
>>> All responsetimes equals n*10 + epsilon [ms].  I'm pretty sure we don't have
>>> any queuing involved that could influence the results, so my question is
>>> whether this is caused by timeresolution problems within either ping or
>>> ppp; or I'm just plain lucky to hit n*10 every time?   :)
>>
>> Sounds like it could be the other end.  What's there?  I seem to
>> remember that System V STREAMS can sometimes do things like this.
>
> It's a FreeBSD-STABLE as well:
>
> FreeBSD freeze.wheel.dk 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #6: Fri Nov 19
> 22:03:19 CET 1999     root@freeze.wheel.dk:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEZE
> i386
>
>  - and it's just a few ethernets away - plus of course the ppp-link (see
> below).
>
>> BTW, for normal ping packets and 33.6 or 56 kb/s, these are *very*
>> slow times.
>
> Actually its ISDN, just not the B-channel  :-)

Ah, now you tell me.  That changes everything, of course.  D channel
data goes through several transformations before being sent.  I would
strongly suspect that this is telling you something about the way your
local switch works.

So is D channel usage allowed in Denmark?

Greg
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