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Date:      Sat, 9 May 2020 17:43:53 +0200
From:      Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux
Message-ID:  <20200509174353.1636b1ef@archlinux>
In-Reply-To: <20200509085553.00006a3a@seibercom.net>
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On Sat, 9 May 2020 08:55:53 -0400, Jerry wrote:
>I have never understood why in a day when there are numerous VMs
>available, any sane person would resort to 'wine'. Wine is nothing more
>than a pseudo Windows environment.

Hi,

wine is as easy to use as virtualbox, but allows to access hardware in
a way virtualbox doesn't allow it. I'm using
https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/ to edit my guitar synth.
The last Linux version I tested was broken. I didn't test the current
Linux and Windows version. However, the last Windows version I
tested does run without issues in wine. Full access to MIDI IOs is
needed. It might be possible to get this by one or the other
virtual machine, but usually those machines require to set up extra
software to share folders, extra software to even access the GUI etc.,
IOW it's way to complicated to install and maintain it, for those of us
who are satisfied with virtualbox or wine. Maybe there even is a way to
bridge hardware MIDI access for virtualbox, but even then, a VM consumes
much space for even a "minimal" Windows install, then there's the need
to use some Chinese service for activation ;), something that isn't
needed when using wine, let alone that wine allows me to use different
prefixes, so I could install different Windows versions at the same
time, like we do when using FreeBSD or Linux.

In Linux (should be the same in FreeBSD):

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls --classic -ld /opt/gr-55_floorboard*
drwxr-xr-x root root 12 KB Tue Apr 28 08:35:37 2020 gr-55_floorboard                          
drwxr-xr-x root root 12 KB Mon Apr 30 08:20:04 2018 gr-55_floorboard_obsolete_version_20180418

wine:

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /usr/local/bin/gr-55_floorboard_2018-4_wine 
#!/bin/dash
wine '/home/rocketmouse/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/GR-55FloorBoard/GR-55FloorBoard.exe' &
exit
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /usr/local/bin/gr-55_floorboard_2020-4_wine 
#!/bin/dash
wine '/home/rocketmouse/.wine-gr-55-20200413/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/GR-55FloorBoard/GR-55FloorBoard.exe' &
exit

How could I install the 2018 and 2020 version of gr-55_floorboard at
the same time, when using a Windows guest?

Regards,
Ralf

PS:

"--classic" is not some mystic Linux option for ls.
I'm on lsd ;).

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep ls= .bashrc
#alias ls='ls --color=auto'
alias ls='lsd'

The output of lsd requires special fonts.



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