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Date:      03 Mar 2001 12:29:36 -0800
From:      asami@clickarray.com (Satoshi Asami)
To:        Peter Pentchev <roam@orbitel.bg>
Cc:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>, ports@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: end of 3-stable support
Message-ID:  <yfkofvi8ukv.fsf@vader.clickarray.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010223123030.E1899@ringworld.oblivion.bg> (Peter Pentchev's message of "Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:30:30 %2B0200")
References:  <200102230817.f1N8HN506575@vader.clickarray.com> <3A963091.8058B7D@FreeBSD.org> <20010223123030.E1899@ringworld.oblivion.bg>

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Hi everyone,

Sorry for the delay.  Due to a disk problem on bento (thanks Peter
Wemm for fixing it!), the package build took much longer than
expected.  The latest and final 3-stable packgaes are up for ftp now.

 * From: Peter Pentchev <roam@orbitel.bg>

 * On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:42:41AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
 * > Satoshi Asami wrote:
 * > 
 * > > Hi all,
 * > >
 * > > As you may all know, the 3-stable branch has slowly being phased out
 * > > for a while now.  This is true for both the tree itself and the ports
 * > > collection; fewer and fewer ports committers have 3-stable machines to
 * > > test with, and the list of build errors kept growing little by little.
 * > >
 * > > Thus, I have decided to stop building 3-stable packages.  The next run
 * > > which starts in a few hours will be the last one for 3-stable.  Of
 * > > course, this last set of packages will be left on ftp.FreeBSD.org for
 * > > a long time, just like the last set of 2.2.* packages.
 * > >
 * > > Thanks for your help.  We can now concentrate all our resources on
 * > > only two branches.  (For a while anyway. ;)
 * > 
 * > Cool. Please indicate when you have last run completed, so we can start
 * > removing 3-stable specific hacks from ports (FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS, USE_NEWGCC,
 * > etc).
 * 
 * Hmm.. I don't really think Satoshi meant we are completely stopping support
 * for 3.x in the Ports collection; just packages for the present.

Actually I meant something in between.  The policy will be similar to
what we had at the end of 2.2-stable support.

(1) No packages will be build for 3-stable anymore.  The last set just
    put up for ftp will remain there as a last snapshot for a long time.

(2) Whatever there is in bsd.port.mk to support 3-stable will remain
    there for at least a few months.

(3) Porters are no longer required to test port builds on 3-stable.
    In particular, new ports do not need any consideration for
    3-stable builds.

(4) As a corollary of 2 and 3, when updating existing ports, porters
    will have an option of removing 3-stable support.

The idea is to give 3-stable users a fighting chance to use the latest
ports while not burdening the porters with any extra work for 3-stable
support.

Hope this clears it up.

-PW

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