Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:50:19 +0100 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> To: Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Cc: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des@des.no>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/amd64/conf GENERIC src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC src/sys/ia64/conf GENERIC src/sys/pc98/conf GENERIC src/sys/powerpc/conf GENERIC src/sys/sparc64/conf GENERIC src/sys/sun4v/conf GENERIC Message-ID: <20070228115018.GA35920@garage.freebsd.pl> In-Reply-To: <200702282146.50638.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> References: <200702091903.l19J3Ik5099479@repoman.freebsd.org> <86vehohs7f.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070227205202.GA32651@garage.freebsd.pl> <200702282146.50638.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
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--Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:46:42PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Wednesday 28 February 2007 07:22, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > > Dag-Erling, you're proposing removing it from GENERIC, because ataraid > > doesn't work nicely in the current world order. From what I looked some > > time ago ataraid isn't using GEOM to access components. AFAIR at some > > point ataraid was hidding components. Gmirror/graid3 for example opens > > all components for write+exclusive which prevents such mistakes. > > > > Anyway, if we decide to remove glabel from GENERIC, I'd at least like to > > make the consensus clear - ataraid should be changed to fit better in > > what we currently have. >=20 > I hope changing ataraid doesn't mean removing the ability to access the= =20 > underlying devices that comprise a RAID array. >=20 > Having this ability is quite useful as it allows you to monitor the statu= s of=20 > the subdisks easily (with smartmontools) as well as do things like read t= he=20 > serial numbers (atacontrol cap adX), etc.. You will still be able to access them read-only, but you won't be able to open them for write. > I don't know if you can use smartctl, atacontrol, etc with graid3 as I do= n't=20 > use it. Sure, all components are visible in /dev/, but you can't write to them directly. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF5Wx6ForvXbEpPzQRAoijAJ9b29imXOdq3Jm2+836A8E1W78E6gCg1nA7 My4UYZW793qODBLl4gX7Bk8= =bhxp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE--
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