From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 21:34:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262A016A41F for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 21:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MGrooms@seton.org) Received: from mx2-out.seton.org (mx2-out.seton.org [65.118.63.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B047A43D45 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 21:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MGrooms@seton.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mx2-out.seton.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CF41213; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2-out.seton.org ([10.21.254.241]) by localhost (mx2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 22244-40; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ausexfe02.seton.org (unknown [10.20.10.186]) by mx2-out.seton.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FC1763; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.20.160.190] ([10.20.160.190]) by ausexfe02.seton.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:34:25 -0500 Message-ID: <42F28B2C.40402@seton.org> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:39:56 -0500 From: Matthew Grooms Organization: Seton Healthcare Network User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.5 (Windows/20050711) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" References: <42F27951.20808@seton.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2005 21:34:25.0709 (UTC) FILETIME=[495175D0:01C5993C] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at seton.org Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT-T support for IPSec stack X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 21:34:29 -0000 Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Matthew Grooms wrote: > >>There was also some mention of a third claim but it was hard to find >>details on the subject. Lastly, some people voiced concerns regarding > > ietf.org -> IPR -> Search -> NAT-T > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?&ipr_id=88 > > ? > Software patents suck. The one I was referring to concerned a third claim also by Microsoft regarding IKEv2. As I said before, I found mention of ( by an ssh.com employee ) but no further details. Here is the reference ... http://www.vpnc.org/ietf-ipsec/03.ipsec/msg01797.html > > I had hoped to get a clear answer after I heared that NetBSD had > started on this but why does nobody send mail to those people listed > as contacts and asks? > Sorry man, I was just trying to be helpful. Do you mean the contacts listed along with the IP disclosures? -Matthew